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#31 of 2059
So let us see what the GM folks have found by ndahi12
May 14, 2002 (10:22 pm)
in their favor. A list from two lawyers (read liars) that is based on phone calls to NHTSA that ONLY these two lairs have access two. How convenient!!! So NHTSA allows all the people who own a vehicle to post complaints to their web site, but NHTSA does not share the same info with the public since it is recieved by phone. Where is the logic in all this?
 
Then there is Quad and his list that is from CAS, but he cannot post a link to it on the CAS web site to save his life. Why is that Quad? If the list is a CAS list, why is it not available on their web site as a news release?
 
What do the Tundra owners have:
 
1. CR for two years running have rated the Tundra number one in reliability and recommends it while not recommending the Rado.
 
2. JD Power has given the Tundra the number one spot in initial quality for two years in a row.
 
3. The NHTSA complaint page is REPLETE with complaints about the Rado, while the Tundra has a few. The 02 Tundra has 2 complaints, while the 02 Rado has 29.
#32 of 2059
Not to mention by h0udini
May 14, 2002 (10:29 pm)
the internet is saturated with GMC lemon sites and problem threads, while the Tundra is generally praised by their owners. I personally place more value on owners' comments and opinions than online advertisements from California lawyers...
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houdini by obyone
May 15, 2002 (3:23 am)
I've read what you've been posting over the past couple of days. While your logic to support Toyota has some merit, you lack credibility based on your repeated GM issues of which you don't have any first hand experience nor does it appear likely that you have any with any make of truck. Than being said , I guess this if the first and last I will acknowledge any of your posts.

twowheeler

FYI, I did not buy a Packard Bell. Get the fact's straight. My point was CR is good for what blender or maybe even lawnmower, as far as vehicles are concerned, I don't even bother with them as there are far better resources available. But you already know this right?

ndahi

It's called the FOIA. The Tundra problems are far too numerous to list. If you want the complete list, all you have to do is a request under FOIA. Course you will have to acknowledge that you will be responsible for any copying, mailing, or research fees which accompany your request. Hre's a link to the FOIA with the CIA in case you have any questions you'd like to ask them:

http://www.foia.ucia.gov/default.asp

The point being that you can request any info from any government organization under the FOIA. Then again, you knew this right? BTW, your condenscending attitude is not appreciated nor does it belong here.

#35 of 2059
truthteller.... by tomh12
May 15, 2002 (4:01 am)
You sure hit the target with that last post!!
 
I have been paying attention to what vehicles I see towing, lately. I have noticed you find lots of Toyotas in college towns, and not too many in between. Just returned from 3788 mile, two week, 3 wild turkey trip. East Coast to NW Arkansas, back through Alabama,(didn't see our favorite resident), Georgia, SC, NC, and VA. Did not see ONE Toyota Tundra towing anything on the highways. Did see one taco hooked up to about a 16' flat bottom boat....It was broke down beside HWY 58 in Southern VA. LOTS of Silverados and Ford products towing. Not as many, but several Dodge trucks towing. Heaviest thing I saw loaded on a Toyota was a 17' Old Towne canoe near the Buffalo River in the Ozarks of NW Arkansas.
Good luck on this one now!
Tom
#37 of 2059
Geez, Tom by bamatundra
May 15, 2002 (4:17 am)
I never saw a GM or Chev towing anything! They are usually on the tow hook!
 
Obyone's GM has been in the shop over 4 months. Quad had to trade his '99 lemon in. (Two intermediate steering shafts, leaking differential, leaking rear slider, etc. etc.
 
I'm glad to see that TT has a groupie now. It is sort of cute.
 
Good luck on this one now!
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May 15, 2002 (4:20 am)
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#39 of 2059
Bamatundra..... by tomh12
May 15, 2002 (4:38 am)
Has Toyota found what was causing that SLUDGE problem in their engines? I wonder how many Tundras have this well known Toyota problem? Also, what do you know about the Toyota Tundra knocking engine problem that keeps being talked about in other forums? What percentage of Tundras have this problem? Any help you can give me in clearing up my concern about these problems would be appreciated.
Tom
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Tom by bamatundra
May 15, 2002 (6:11 am)
In the two years that I have been following the Tundra topics - I have not seen a single case of sludge in Tundras. In fact - neither of the two engines affected (according to Toyota) are used in the Tundra.
 
Tom - does YOUR Tundra have sludge? Just curious.
 
Now - as far as knocking engines go - Chevy claims that it is perfectly normal for their engines to knock. Would you buy a vehicle knowing that it might knock and Chev will tell you that it is "normal".
 
Just another clue that Chev really does not care about its customers. Does Chev really believe that its customers will buy its dog and pony show? I sure hope not.

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