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Re: Lag time... [kdhspyder]
by jimsevers
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 28, 2007 5:29 pm)
Wow kdh, you really like to dwell on this whole side airbag thing, don't you? Is that all you've got? Funny, my GM has side curtain airbags, because I chose to buy them. Someday soon, 2010 at the very latest, ALL vehicles will have them, then what are you going to choose to dwell upon? How come the human race still exists today since side airbags are new and we drove all those years without them, shouldn't we all be dead and trying to call Onstar from heaven? Give it up already. I can hardly wait for the rest of the safety tests to come out, so I can hear even more excuses for why the Tundra did so poorly, especially after hearing that they are going to do so much better "next time around". We'll see...
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- #2019 of 2059
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Re: Satisfied with my Silverado [dave8697]
by kdhspyder
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Mar 28, 2007 4:28 pm)
Dave's rant with no data to support it is noted. Common misconception though.
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- #2020 of 2059
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Re: Lag time... [kdhspyder]
by jimsevers
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 28, 2007 5:39 pm)
OOOOhhhh....We are now worthy, kdhspyder "Granted" us the benefit. Let us celebrate!!! What qualifies you to grant any benefits? Only to turn it around and say it's "too stiff"? Bone Jarring? c'mon now, be real. Were talking about the best riding trucks on the planet for the past several decades. And let's not talk about rattles...Toyotas are all rattletraps.
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- #2021 of 2059
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Re: Lag time... [jimsevers]
by kdhspyder
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: jimsevers (Mar 28, 2007 5:41 pm)
Interesting that you had to pay for them.
The side/curtain airbag and stability contro issue is far more important than the 4 vs 5 stars. Let's just keep the subject in perspective.
Whenever anyone brings up the NHTSA test on one Reg Cab model I only ask why GM and Ford don't even offer S/C airbags and stability control on all their Reg Cab models.
The level of risks aren't nearly the same. So by 2010 the the others will finally reach the safety level of the Tundra. I accept that.
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- #2022 of 2059
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Re: Lag time... [jimsevers]
by kdhspyder
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: jimsevers (Mar 28, 2007 5:50 pm)
'Scuse please. The best riding trucks on the planet for the past several decades had open C-channel frames.
Let's wait several years to see how these new structures react.
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- #2023 of 2059
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Re: Satisfied with my Silverado [dave8697]
by imidazol97
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Mar 28, 2007 4:28 pm)
>They brought us Lexus at below cost 15 years ago. Foot in the door.
Does anyone remember the dumping era we went through? Products sold in this country for below cost just to undercut the US companies who theen went out of business leaving the market for ....
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- #2024 of 2059
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Re: Lag time... [kdhspyder]
by jimsevers
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 28, 2007 5:50 pm)
And Toyota gives them away for free?? Wow, impressive. Hey, wanna buy some "land" in Florida?
By 2010, the Tundra probably will be dead and buried, right next to the T100.
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- #2025 of 2059
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Re: Lag time... [kdhspyder]
by jimsevers
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 28, 2007 5:53 pm)
That's right, and now their even better with newer, higher tech frames. You don't think these frames were engineered? They keep getting better and better my friend, not worse. Someday, maybe the Tundra will follow suit.
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- #2026 of 2059
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Re: Lag time... [kdhspyder]
by explorerx4
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Mar 28, 2007 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 28, 2007 5:50 pm)
kdh... i know you sell toyota's, but be real. how many collisions are side vs front/back? why were the first standards focused on the front/rear bumpers?
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- #2027 of 2059
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Re: Satisfied with my Silverado [dreasdad]
by blckislandguy
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Mar 28, 2007 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: dreasdad (Mar 28, 2007 5:40 pm)
Dave may have spoken too plainly but I think we can all agree that Japanese corporations are run in an extreme top down manner and most important decisions are made back at home. When the Nissan Armada had assembly problems in MS, they didn't fly in engineers and senior managers from Dublin to fix the problem. Speaking of highly authoritarian, top down management, what other society has "salarymen", many of whom literally work themselves to death every year?
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