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Replying to: dave8697 (Mar 28, 2007 4:28 pm) PS Awesome capabilities alone do not make a great truck. It's only one ingredient, to leave out the other ingredients leaves the recipe incomplete. |
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Replying to: geo9 (Mar 28, 2007 1:58 pm) I realize sales jobs are to make people feel they need what's being sold rather than needing only the ability of the truck they need so that they overbuy. But all this verbage is becoming wearing. It's like hearing about a passenger car that the fanmags love because it does 10 Gs on the skid pad and can do 0-60 in 4 seconds? Who uses that to commute downtown Philly to work and back and an occasional trip to Pittsburg? I want real vehicles that do well for the application of typical, real drivers in the real world. Most pickups I see are driven to and from a work with a tie and dress clothes or high heels for the ladies. They don't need 5.7 and 6 speed. For some reason they choose to drive a pickup. |
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All of you! Toyota, and the Tundra, are wrong, and you are right. The Tundra should not have redesigned the truck, and the current Tundra is what Toyota, and America needs, a weaker, more genteel representative. It should be car-like, and ride nice, and not have too much power, because power really isn't what's important in a pick-up anyway. Smaller brakes and less towing would be preferable. And please don't give me a choice of a big back seat, or the biggest back seat, because then I might lose 3 inches of beg length, and then the truck will be worthless. And why would you charge less than $30k for the strongest truck in the class? A RC 5.7 for $25k? What? That's dumb!! These guys are dopes! What the h$%# is that about? Put that on the Limited model only, so you could really a $40k truck worthwhile! Wet behind the ears! And since Toyota trucks have such a reputation for rattling and being old pieces of junk, let's do what eevrybody else does to fix the chronic problems with their trucks! Because Toyota obviously doesn't know what they-re doing, and everybody else knows much better, and have been using better frames for all of 5 years now. And since Toyota can't build a HD model, the Tundra doesn't really count because nobody buys a half-ton to be strong, or tow, or carry weight, or anything else but pack with groceries. Wheels are too big, brakes are too big, buttons are too big. Give me a Colorado before I shot myself! Someday Toyota will get it's act together and build a decent full-sized truck. Someday. DrFill |
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Replying to: geo9 (Mar 28, 2007 1:58 pm) Do some research first. Hint: ALSD Do you prefer to be possibly injured slightly more, somewhere from 1% to 19%, in a frontal collision? OR Do you prefer to be possibly more dead in a rollover or side crash because there are no Side and Curtain airbags or Stability Control on your T900? Forget the T800's.
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Replying to: jimsevers (Mar 28, 2007 2:15 pm) 1500# in the bed and a 4500# trailer. I'm suggessting that the 'common knowledge' about trucks may be about to change. Things that a 1/2 ton never could be considered to do might from now onward be considered. From a commercial pov some of the lighter diesel work might now be considered for the new generation 1/2 tonners...but at a $5000-$8000 discount. We'll see. |
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Replying to: erich1965 (Mar 28, 2007 12:19 pm) a dually is better when hauling something that outweighs the tow vehicle by a factor of 2. |
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Replying to: pmusce (Mar 28, 2007 3:33 pm) We'll have to see.
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Replying to: dave8697 (Mar 28, 2007 4:28 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 28, 2007 5:29 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Mar 28, 2007 4:28 pm) |
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