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#1980 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [motownusa] by erich1965
Mar 28, 2007 (10:29 am)

Replying to: motownusa (Mar 28, 2007 10:16 am)

I said "real-world"..but here goes...
 
Better accleration
And this is a benefit how? (This is a truck forum, not a Corvette forum). Oh, and is it better than the 6.2l with 400+ hp and 417 lb-ft of torque available in the Denali and soon-to-be available in the Sierra and Silvy.
 
better braking
Not true, not on all of the tests I've seen.
 
higher towing capacity
10,800 vs 10,500??? Ok, if you consider 300 lbs at a ridiculously high rating for a 1/2 ton an advantage, more power to ya.
 
6 speed vs 4 speed auto
How is this better? And even if it is, which it very well may be. The GM's have it available also on a limited basis, full scale next year. So, this is a very short term "advantage" if you insist it is an advantage. I'll give ya this one for now.
 
My consensus...BOTH trucks are equally "capable" as far as work goes. but the GMs are better built, classier, better interiors, more features (rear Locking Diff, Rainsense wipers, heated Washer fluid, Onstar, Electrochromic mirrors, remote start....etc, etc). More comfortable seats and all this for less $$$
 
As for your last comment...yeah, right, your dreaming.
#1981 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [erich1965] by belias
Mar 28, 2007 (10:45 am)

Replying to: erich1965 (Mar 28, 2007 10:29 am)

Does anybody else need convincing now? kdhspyder and dr.fill I'm sure will concur here. Exact same arguments given as his previous dozen other aliases given here... please jreagan, at least come up with something new for your arguments. We've recycled these same arguments dozens of times. You've been kicked off for trolling on Toyota forums. Why don't you just join your GM buddies in their forums and talk praises about your new GMC rigs? How is that 2007 Sierra 4x4 doing? Did it arrive yet?
I saw that Onstar is dumping millions of customers because they are turning off analog transmissions! LOL, yeah... that is going to keep people loyal to GM. Sheesh, now all those vehicles can't even claim their Onstar systems as an asset. I'm sure a "digital" solution will be found but will bet GM will make good coin on the retrofit... it is that attitude that I resented most when I had my Chevy... as soon as I bought it and they had my money, I was made to feel that my car was inferior to everything else that they had. I don't know how they thought this would make me a return buyer. I doubt fans of Onstar will be feeling the same about GM after this...
#1982 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [erich1965] by motownusa
Mar 28, 2007 (10:47 am)

Replying to: erich1965 (Mar 28, 2007 10:29 am)

I know you are a fan of Bankrupt Motors but Toyota wins every objective test; checkout the video that compares the Tundra with the competition.
#1983 of 2059
OnStar Conversion... by belias
Mar 28, 2007 (11:00 am)
Here is some info about OnStar from their own web-site regarding the conversion... it isn't going to be pretty, I'm sure there will be a lot of backlash:
 
"Analog-to-Digital Transition
Revised January 16, 2007
Q1. What different types of equipment do OnStar-equipped vehicles have?
A1. OnStar-equipped vehicles have one of three types of equipment:
 
Analog-Only: OnStar-equipped vehicles with analog-only equipment were designed to operate only on the analog cellular network and cannot be upgraded to operate on the digital network. Vehicles with this equipment will no longer be able to receive OnStar services beginning January 1, 2008. At that time, service will be available only through dual-mode (analog/digital) equipment. Analog-only vehicles cannot be upgraded to digital equipment. (Refer to Question #6 for additional details.)
 
Analog/Digital-Ready: OnStar-equipped vehicles with analog/digital-ready equipment operate on the analog cellular network, but can be upgraded to dual-mode (analog/digital) equipment if available for that vehicle. Beginning January 1, 2008, OnStar service will not be available on these vehicles unless the OnStar equipment has been upgraded to dual-mode (analog/digital) equipment.
 
Dual-Mode (Analog/Digital): OnStar-equipped vehicles with dual-mode (analog/digital) equipment operate on both the analog and digital cellular networks and will not require an upgrade in connection with the cellular industry's transition to the digital network."
-- from http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp/explore/onstar_basics/helpful_info.jsp?info- -view=tech_equip
#1984 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [belias] by erich1965
Mar 28, 2007 (11:06 am)

Replying to: belias (Mar 28, 2007 10:45 am)

Nope, I am convinced now, I am not me, I am someone else. Was he the only other GM guy on here? Why did he get booted? Do you suspect all of the other GM guys? Maybe 1offroader is jreagan too? You're unbelievable.
 
OH, and you better not buy any more Japanese TV's anymore then, since they will require you spending money on the current analog sets to get them to receive digital signals next year. Like GM had anything to do with the analog to digital transition. Wow, you really are twisted.
 
Oh and BTW, no, I haven't receieved it yet, because I haven't ordered one yet. But I am going to, probably this summer. Although I will probably just find one on a dealer lot instead of ordering it. Thanks for your concern though.
#1985 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [motownusa] by erich1965
Mar 28, 2007 (11:13 am)

Replying to: motownusa (Mar 28, 2007 10:47 am)

And who produced this video? An unbiased 3rd party, right? No? hmm???
 
I saw the video, and my teenage daughter even commented that it was made by Toyota and they can do whatever they wanted to do to sell their truck. Boy, are you ever gullible. Besides, who races trucks pulling heavy trailers? How relevant is that? So, the tundra can beat a Peterbilt too, does that mean it's more powerful and more capable than the peterbilt?
#1986 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [erich1965] by motownusa
Mar 28, 2007 (11:15 am)

Replying to: erich1965 (Mar 28, 2007 11:13 am)

Keep firing away; your posts make about as much sense as the company you are trying to defend. Both are out of ideas.
#1987 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [motownusa] by erich1965
Mar 28, 2007 (11:17 am)

Replying to: motownusa (Mar 28, 2007 11:15 am)

Oh, and that was an intelligent post. Stay up all night coming up with that one?
#1988 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [erich1965] by motownusa
Mar 28, 2007 (11:25 am)

Replying to: erich1965 (Mar 28, 2007 11:17 am)

No I am on vacation. Plus I know Toyota makes better product than GM including trucks. Toyota is growing and GM is shrinking. That pretty much proves my point.
#1989 of 2059
Re: Let's turn the table... [motownusa] by erich1965
Mar 28, 2007 (11:29 am)

Replying to: motownusa (Mar 28, 2007 11:25 am)

Toyota makes better product than GM including trucks
 
That's your opinion, as arrogant as it may be, you are entitled to it.
 
Toyota is growing and GM is shrinking. That pretty much proves my point.
 
That proves nothing!!! GM is still bigger that Toyota, and in the truck market, it always will be. Deal with it.

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