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2059 messages, Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 01, 2007 8:15 pm) Rocky
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Replying to: gearhead1 (Feb 01, 2007 5:30 pm) |
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 01, 2007 7:52 pm) While I know that you were just poking with a sharp stick - the 'sludge' issues were on 90's engines developed in the 80's. There have never been any reports - ever - of any of the new VVTi or dual VVTi engines ever experiencing any kind of sludge. It's in the past. I am sure that one or two of the vehicle mags will be doing some kind of head-to-head this spring, if it's not done already. It will be interesting. But having driven all 5 of them recently I can tell you that you heard it here first. The other 4 will be smoked in every category except, maybe, hauling where the top three are close. Acceleration ( free and under load ) Braking Standard Equipment Safety equipment And to top that off... disregarding ridiculous incentives the Tundra is generally lower in price, similarly equipped.
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 01, 2007 7:58 pm) The King of 1/2-Ton Pick-ups http://www.sportruck.com/news/2007-GMC-Sierra-Denali/index.htm This should satisfy you........ Rocky Dated? Oct 2006 5 months before the Tundra beast hit the streets.... 5 months as No 1 is a good reign. 
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 01, 2007 8:26 pm) GM/F are still stuck with a 4 spd AT. Plus, the other 4 charge anywhere from $350 to $1200 for a tow package. Again I think that this is intentional on GM's part in that it wants buyers to move up to the DuraMax. Ford OTOH has very few options given their current state. GM has the best diesel powertrain; Ford is suing its partner and supplier over its diesel powertrain. Ford currently is using an out-of-date engine as their primary 1/2 ton workhorse and it has no other option on the top end. Unless it has a miracle engine under wraps for the 2009 renewal it's in deep doo doo for the next 7-10 years. But given its financial state where is the money going to come from to develop such a miracle engine. It needs to do cars in the worst way and it needs to get the new crossover Explorer to market tomorrow. All the while it's burning through $20 Million every single day ( that is it's sending out $20 Million more every day than it takes in ). It may have to live off a very loyal fan base like the Red Sox did for the foreseeable future.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 01, 2007 9:01 pm) It's in the past. Kd, that was a sharp stick. I'm sorry  I am sure that one or two of the vehicle mags will be doing some kind of head-to-head this spring, if it's not done already. It will be interesting. Yeah, it will be interesting. My prediction is the 5.7 vs. 5.3 will win. I can see and understand that. If they use a 6.0 vs. 5.7 that might make it close enough to give the Silverado a fighting chance.  But having driven all 5 of them recently I can tell you that you heard it here first. The other 4 will be smoked in every category except, maybe, hauling where the top three are close. Acceleration ( free and under load ) Braking Standard Equipment Safety equipment So you've test driven all the 07's ???? Like the Tundra, Silverado, Titan, F-150, Ram Hemi, Ridgeline, Sierra =7, right ???? Can you give more details ???? And to top that off... disregarding ridiculous incentives the Tundra is generally lower in price, similarly equipped. Yeah, they are pretty close. I however know people that are paying close to invoice on the GMers. If that is true then the Silverado, IMHO will be the better deal if people are able to negotiate $3-4K off w/ $1K incentive. A co-worker was only able to get $1500 off but that was like almost 2 months ago. GM, has a promotion going on now where you can get $1K off for GM loyalty. I haven't seen very many new trucks on the lots down here because they are red hot !!!! Rocky
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 01, 2007 9:03 pm) Rocky
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 01, 2007 9:09 pm) GM, has to share the 6-speeds with Ford since they co-developed it. Rocky |
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 01, 2007 9:19 pm)  Rocky |
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 01, 2007 9:17 pm) Tundra 5.7L, Silverado 5.3L, Titan 5.6L, F150 5.4L and Ram 5.7L HEMI IMO the Silverado looks the nicest from a traditional pov and it has the most upscale interior. My beef is that it almost looked too dainty. The buttons were well placed and tight but too small for me. I can see some worker getting pi$$ed at something and smashing at it with a fist. The Tundra certainly looks different but it's a reflection I think of a statement Toyota is making: 'Here it is love it or hate it but you've got to accept that it's here now and it's gonna stand out. Take your best shot.' The Tundra was significantly better than the others in performance....and its turning circle is at least 3 ft shorter than any of the others.. and yet it's bigger than the rest. The Titan is quick but it's not designed to carry very much. Surprisingly the Ram with the 5.7L HEMI isn't very good in hauling either. The F150 with the 5.4L is a solid workhorse, it can haul and it can tow, but it just can't do either very fast. A burro rather than a thoroughbred. The Silvy with the 5.3L is the weakest of all 5 in towing but it hauls very well. All of the other 4 are seriously lacking some standard equipment. .. You can't get Stability Control or Side/Curtain airbags on any F150 at any price. .. Nissan charges $1200 for side and curtain airbags. GM $715. .. Stabilitrak/ESC/VDM is optional on all but the top end models for GM/D/N. .. Nissan and Dodge have 5 spd AT's GM/F only 4 spd AT's GM has the 'best' PT Warranty but it's a bit of a mirage. If you drive 'normal' miles or low miles then GM's Warranty is about the same as the others. If you drive high miles then the 100K mi limit is worthwhile. Good Marketing by GM.
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