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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 01, 2007 8:22 am) All 1/2 ton reg. cab small v-8, auto 4wd specs. Silverado 8900 lbs. Ram 8800 " toyota 8200 " Ford 6800! " The only number I'll quibble with there is the one for the Silverado. The number you've indicated (8900 lbs.) is for the 5.3l V8 version rather than the "small v-8" 4.8l version. Since all of the other numbers you indicated are for the sub-5.0l versions (4.7l V8 for the Dodge Ram, 4.7l V8 for the Toyota Tundra and 4.6l V8 for the F150), it would probably be fairer to compare against the Silverado equipped with the 4.8l V8. According to Chevy's Silverado website, the Silverado equipped similarly to the others will tow 7900 lbs not 8900 lbs. "Funny.....toyota lists NO factory trailer hitch aval.... according to Edmunds." Well, according to Toyota's website, their V8 tow package includes the following: "Heavy-duty tow hitch receiver 7-pin connector Trailer brake controller prewire Supplemental transmission cooler TOW/HAUL mode Automatic-transmission temperature gauge 4.100 rear axle ratio (on 4.7L models) or 4.300 rear axle ratio (on 5.7L models)" I'd still like to see you backup your earlier assertion that the Tundra has "bottom of the heap towing capacity". |
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Replying to: gearhead1 (Feb 01, 2007 10:17 am) I mean, c'mon, calling trucks names? It's comical at best, but managing to evaporate what credibility orignally existed before those statements. Thanks gearhead1, TheGrad
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 01, 2007 6:08 am) Can you explain to me what that is ??? Rocky |
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Replying to: gearhead1 (Feb 01, 2007 10:17 am) I would think that would be the 6.2 V8 in the Denali. I often find it funny how some of you guys spin the thread to make lower models from GM compete against the top models from Toyota. I hope that makes y'all feel warm inside.  Kd, I'm not going to dispute your post. I don't have enough information to know how you can configure the new Silverado yet. I've also found that the Chevy website is kind of confusing when trying to configure the best truck for towing. I'll give another run at it in the near future to see how the 6.0 can obtain the 10500 tow rating. I know the new Silverado is a POS and the new Tundra is the greatest truck since slice bread when y'all do a comparo similar to the ones edmunds.com's staff has done. I do find it funny so many normally very biased anti-GM magazines, news papers, etc, picked the Silverado as their truck of the year and gave it good reviews. I guess because the edmunds.com staff doing a apples to oranges comparo that was enough in y'alls minds to reinforce any doubt that Toyota, is the best at everything and GM's automobiles because of the 1980's are still crap. I know I'm going to the far extreme but that is essentially the make-up of some personality's on this forum based on past posts. geo9, isn't the only one that has put questionable stereotype labels with automobiles and I find it funny that he gets slammed by people that have done the same thing in the past with stereotypes. I could go up and down the list and find dislikes with the Tundra, and explain why it's not the best pick-up. What would I accomplish ???? Y'all are going to buy it not because you need the extra powertrain but because it wears the Toyota badge and thats enough reason to make the purchase even though you will pay more, get less of a warranty, and get less features and refinement. I will go out on a limb and say this fall we will likely see some powertrain adjustments from GM, to meet or exceed Toyota. I suppose then y'all would still find other faults with the Silverado, because no matter what GM, does it won't be good enough let alone be as good as the Tundra. This is very typical of not only the trucks we are talking about but GM vs. Toyota in general. I can't change y'alls perception and I'm not trying to change y'alls minds on what you should like. I just think the Silverado, finally deserves a little respect and not be trashed. I've said the new Tundra, is a very nice worthy full-size truck but it being the best is subject to the individuals. I have a feeling the majority of people that buy the Silverado, over the Tundra won't be disappointed about it's disadvantages which is some cases are advantages.  Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 01, 2007 3:18 pm) When they went to the new T900's this was dropped. I'm guessing, only a guess, that since the T900's are new and just launching since Sept that they haven't opened all the options up as yet. They may not be building many 6.0L Silvy's as yet for a couple of reasons.. a) they are just ramping up production so the 5.3L gets all the production time; b) there is little demand for the 6.0L in a half ton pickup. As you originally noted if someone is going to do very heavy work then it's the DuraMax which is probably GM's best - and most profitable - drivetrain. GM may be discouraging buyers from ordering the 6.0L in favor of stepping up to the DuraMax 2500. Better truck / more profits. As an indication there are ZERO 6.0L V8's on our Chevy lot. The bulk are the 5.3L & 4.8L and the DuraMax diesels. Toyota is doing the same with the 4.0L V6's in the Tundra. It's much better to go to a V8 ( 4.7 or 5.7 ) than to order the V6. So they price it very high in relation to the V8's.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 01, 2007 3:34 pm)  Rocky
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http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/02/01/035673.html Enjoy! DrFill
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 01, 2007 11:36 am) You are of course correct, but his pitches are so slow and right over the plate, it's hard to resist not knocking them out of the park.
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Replying to: drfill (Feb 01, 2007 5:10 pm) The fully loaded payload is probably brick painted cardboard boxes....grin  The acceleration tests probably are done with a engine swap of GM's 6.0 V8 with Toyota emblems  I couldn't resist.....  Rocky |
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As they would gladly use Toyota engines in their cars, like they have done many times, past (Cavalier in Japan, Geo Prism), and present (Vibe GT). Pretty sure Toyota would give a raspberry to a domestic swap. Overhead valves and pushrods are like Beta tapes to 'Yota. DrFill |
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