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2059 messages, Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
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Replying to: rorr (Feb 01, 2007 7:49 am) All 1/2 ton reg. cab small v-8, auto 4wd specs. Silverado 8900 lbs. Ram 8800 " toyota 8200 " Ford 6800! " Funny.....toyota lists NO factory trailer hitch aval.... according to Edmunds
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Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm) Your obviously trolling for attention here. There is no one that doesn't know that the Silvy is now playing catch up with Toyota with their powertrain. You seriously can't have your head buried that far in the sand. Toyota may later than sooner innovate rather than imitate. You mean the way Honda did with the Ridgeline. Yep, you strike me as a person that appreciates innovation. |
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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 01, 2007 8:22 am) Go to Toyota's website and see the 2007 specs. It'll scare the daylights out of you....  . All your preconceived notions are shattered.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 01, 2007 9:15 am) Easy to compare all 4 trucks from a "neutral" site. So no koolaid ! But still NO factory trailer hitch (acc. to Edmunds) Are they still making the "honda pantyline"? I have seen reports that it is gonna be discontinued because of poor sales. The complaints on that "wondercar" here at Edmunds and ridglineownersclub are quite funny ! The water leak posts alone are quite amusing. What about the failing strut issus? Are the body wrinkle posts still closed ? I LOVE the long term test reviews here at Edmunds tho. Heck, They only had 3 struts FAIL at 1 time........ Talk about heads in the sand!  GM had that idea from the get-go with the Avalanche! But they screwed up !...No in bed "trunk" ! honda the innovators ! honda thought it was good enough to TRY and copy.......
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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 01, 2007 9:56 am) Easy to compare all 4 trucks from a "neutral" site. So no koolaid ! Son, the specs are clearly listed on Toyota's site. If they are different on Edmunds, Edmunds has made a mistake. Where do you think edmunds gets their numbers? Do you think they do independent testing or something? Get a clue. Are they still making the "honda pantyline"? I have seen reports that it is gonna be discontinued because of poor sales. Calling inanimate objects names is a sure sign of someone that doesn't have a case. Poor sales? Honda met sales projections last year. I'm not sure what your talking about. There is a V6 diesel coming in 09 for the Ridgeline. The complaints on that "wondercar" here at Edmunds and ridglineownersclub are quite funny ! The water leak posts alone are quite amusing. It the body wrinkle still closed ? Talk about heads in the sand! More name calling. My, this truck must have you really irritated. The posts about the Avy's problems ar also very amusing here on Edmunds and elsewhere. GM had that idea from the get-go with the Avalanche! honda thought it was good enough to TRY and copy....... Bob Lutz, a GM VP and GM's auto ghuro said the Ridgeline had the best packaging of any vehicle he has ever seen. I'm assuming he's aware of the Avalanche. I'm also assuming he's infinitely more informed on the auto industry than you are. GM Vice President praises Honda Ridgeline At the North American International Auto Show in Detroit earlier this month, Bob Lutz, GM's vice chairman, brought a large contingent to inspect Ridgeline. He told Flint: It's the best ``packaging'' of any vehicle he has ever seen, meaning the best layout and use of space. Lutz praises competitors sparingly, especially those from abroad. There isn't a better multi purpose SUT on the market than the Ridgeline. Their are few that would disagree -Motor Trend truck of the year 2006 -North American Truck of the year 2006 -Detroit News truck of the year 2006 -Consumer Reports top rated truck -JD Power & Associates 2005 APEAL award for the Honda Ridgeline -Autobytel 2006 Editors' Choice Award: Truck of the year 2006 -Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) Best New Pickup 2006 -On Wheels Incorporated: Ridgeline 2006 Urban Wheel Award for the Urban Truck of the Year -Ridgeline wins Strategic Vision's coveted "Most Delightful" compact pickup award. -best rollover resistance rating of any pickup tested by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) -first-ever 4-door pickup to earn a 5-star safety rating for both front and side impact crash test performance from the U.S. National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA). -Society of Plastic Engineers 2005 Grand Award (composite inbed trunk) -Car And Driver Rates Honda Ridgeline #1 Pickup. - AutoWeek Editors' Choice Award as the 'Most Significant' new vehicle in the show -Maxim Truck Of The Year 2006 -Autoweb.com top ten tailgater -2007 Automobile Magazine All Star award Top 10 cars for 2007 Now back to the full size truck that has the best powertrain on the market: The 07 Tundra
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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 01, 2007 8:22 am) All 1/2 ton reg. cab small v-8, auto 4wd specs. Silverado 8900 lbs. Ram 8800 " toyota 8200 " Ford 6800! " The only number I'll quibble with there is the one for the Silverado. The number you've indicated (8900 lbs.) is for the 5.3l V8 version rather than the "small v-8" 4.8l version. Since all of the other numbers you indicated are for the sub-5.0l versions (4.7l V8 for the Dodge Ram, 4.7l V8 for the Toyota Tundra and 4.6l V8 for the F150), it would probably be fairer to compare against the Silverado equipped with the 4.8l V8. According to Chevy's Silverado website, the Silverado equipped similarly to the others will tow 7900 lbs not 8900 lbs. "Funny.....toyota lists NO factory trailer hitch aval.... according to Edmunds." Well, according to Toyota's website, their V8 tow package includes the following: "Heavy-duty tow hitch receiver 7-pin connector Trailer brake controller prewire Supplemental transmission cooler TOW/HAUL mode Automatic-transmission temperature gauge 4.100 rear axle ratio (on 4.7L models) or 4.300 rear axle ratio (on 5.7L models)" I'd still like to see you backup your earlier assertion that the Tundra has "bottom of the heap towing capacity". |
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Replying to: gearhead1 (Feb 01, 2007 10:17 am) I mean, c'mon, calling trucks names? It's comical at best, but managing to evaporate what credibility orignally existed before those statements. Thanks gearhead1, TheGrad
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 01, 2007 6:08 am) Can you explain to me what that is ??? Rocky |
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Replying to: gearhead1 (Feb 01, 2007 10:17 am) I would think that would be the 6.2 V8 in the Denali. I often find it funny how some of you guys spin the thread to make lower models from GM compete against the top models from Toyota. I hope that makes y'all feel warm inside. Kd, I'm not going to dispute your post. I don't have enough information to know how you can configure the new Silverado yet. I've also found that the Chevy website is kind of confusing when trying to configure the best truck for towing. I'll give another run at it in the near future to see how the 6.0 can obtain the 10500 tow rating. I know the new Silverado is a POS and the new Tundra is the greatest truck since slice bread when y'all do a comparo similar to the ones edmunds.com's staff has done. I do find it funny so many normally very biased anti-GM magazines, news papers, etc, picked the Silverado as their truck of the year and gave it good reviews. I guess because the edmunds.com staff doing a apples to oranges comparo that was enough in y'alls minds to reinforce any doubt that Toyota, is the best at everything and GM's automobiles because of the 1980's are still crap. I know I'm going to the far extreme but that is essentially the make-up of some personality's on this forum based on past posts. geo9, isn't the only one that has put questionable stereotype labels with automobiles and I find it funny that he gets slammed by people that have done the same thing in the past with stereotypes. I could go up and down the list and find dislikes with the Tundra, and explain why it's not the best pick-up. What would I accomplish ???? Y'all are going to buy it not because you need the extra powertrain but because it wears the Toyota badge and thats enough reason to make the purchase even though you will pay more, get less of a warranty, and get less features and refinement. I will go out on a limb and say this fall we will likely see some powertrain adjustments from GM, to meet or exceed Toyota. I suppose then y'all would still find other faults with the Silverado, because no matter what GM, does it won't be good enough let alone be as good as the Tundra. This is very typical of not only the trucks we are talking about but GM vs. Toyota in general. I can't change y'alls perception and I'm not trying to change y'alls minds on what you should like. I just think the Silverado, finally deserves a little respect and not be trashed. I've said the new Tundra, is a very nice worthy full-size truck but it being the best is subject to the individuals. I have a feeling the majority of people that buy the Silverado, over the Tundra won't be disappointed about it's disadvantages which is some cases are advantages.  Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 01, 2007 3:18 pm) When they went to the new T900's this was dropped. I'm guessing, only a guess, that since the T900's are new and just launching since Sept that they haven't opened all the options up as yet. They may not be building many 6.0L Silvy's as yet for a couple of reasons.. a) they are just ramping up production so the 5.3L gets all the production time; b) there is little demand for the 6.0L in a half ton pickup. As you originally noted if someone is going to do very heavy work then it's the DuraMax which is probably GM's best - and most profitable - drivetrain. GM may be discouraging buyers from ordering the 6.0L in favor of stepping up to the DuraMax 2500. Better truck / more profits. As an indication there are ZERO 6.0L V8's on our Chevy lot. The bulk are the 5.3L & 4.8L and the DuraMax diesels. Toyota is doing the same with the 4.0L V6's in the Tundra. It's much better to go to a V8 ( 4.7 or 5.7 ) than to order the V6. So they price it very high in relation to the V8's.
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