Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
You are in the Toyota Tundra
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Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Truck
#1365 of 2059 Re: Flimsy 07 Tundra (and 07 Titan) doors [kdhspyder]
Mar 04, 2007 (7:27 pm)
"I know.. just about the same time the HD Tundra's hit the market. Then there will be a whole 'nother discussion to have."
I don't believe the HD Tundra's will be out in 2008. I would be surprised if they are even out by 2009.
"Now here is something to consider.. and it's just Sunday afternoon speculation...
Dodge is supposed to get a diesel 1500...soon.
Toyota has the Isuzu engineers working on something...?"
GM will have a 1500 diesel in 2009. Toyota better be working on something or they will be left behind with no half ton diesel. I believe both Ford and DCX will also have 1/2 ton diesels in 2009.
#1366 of 2059 Re: MSRP comparison.... [kdhspyder]
Mar 04, 2007 (7:35 pm)
"Even though we will disagree on this point, there is no way in Edmunds or the Chevy site to spec out a 6.0L Silverado with the Max Trailering Package. It's just not there."
You can't even build one with the 6.0 V8, does that mean they don't offer it? You need to get over this. The package is available on the Silverado.
#1368 of 2059 Re: Just curious [1offroader]
Mar 05, 2007 (6:34 am)
"Just curious what a comparable Tundra would cost compared to my Silverado.
4WD, Crew Cab, 6.0L, Z71 Offroad pkg. (skid plates, locker, gas shocks, heavier front sway bar, larger air cleaner), 2LT pkg. (premium cloth int., power seats, etc.), Safety pkg. (side air bags, power adjustable pedals), power sliding rear window, EZLift tailgate (lockable), 18"x8" Z71 alloy wheels. My MSRP was $38,875, Invoice $35,389, paid $35,642 (but included 3rd ignition key valued approx. $150)."
A Tundra SR5 CrewMax 4wd w/ the 5.7l engine, TRD offroad pkg. (Includes offroad suspension, Bilstein shocks, 18" x 8" alloy wheels, P275/65R18 BF Goodrich Tires, fog lamps, engine skidplate, fuel tank skidplate, front tow hook), cloth bucket seats and floor console (in lieu of standard bench seat), running boards, and a cold kit has an MSRP of $36,730 and invoices at $33,079. It has the air bags, power rear window (which drops DOWN rather than slides to the side), and the lockable ezlift tailgate as standard equipment.
#1369 of 2059 Something else I noticed....
Mar 05, 2007 (6:41 am)
Rear seats in the Tundra CrewMax can be slid forward for additional storage BEHIND the 2nd row; the rear seats also recline in the Tundra CrewMax.
The GM Crewcab models may also do this, I don't know.....
#1370 of 2059 Re: Something else I noticed.... [rorr]
Mar 05, 2007 (7:09 am)
The rear seat in the GM crewcabs are split about 70-30 and fold up independently (one-hand, latchfree operation). They have a decent fixed recline, but do not have adjustable recline. When folded up, there are NO exposed floor brackets to get in the way or to bang your knees or cargo on while loading/unloading cargo. Very clean design. There is a huge amount of "clean" cargo space in the back when the seats are folded up for when you want to haul something inside the cab to keep it out of the elements and climate controlled.
#1371 of 2059 Re: Something else I noticed.... [jreagan]
Mar 05, 2007 (8:21 am)
And the split 60-40 rear seatbacks of the Tundra CrewMax fold down to create a flat load surface that extends all the way to the back of the cab. There is also a huge amount of "clean" cargo space for when you want to haul something inside the cab to keep it out of the elements and climate controlled.
#1372 of 2059 Re: Something else I noticed.... [rorr]
Mar 05, 2007 (8:44 am)
Sounds very similar. I am sure they are both pretty much the same as far as this goes.
#1373 of 2059 Re: Something else I noticed.... [rorr]
Mar 05, 2007 (8:54 am)
So how does that folding seat work? The seat folds into the floor? I am not visualizing this. If it folds flat on top of the seat bottom, then the flat surface is way higher than the floor level. I haul a big ice chest inside when I'm hunting - hopefully full of deer or elk on the way home. I want it inside so I can keep it cool. Do I have to lift that sucker and add'l. 2 feet higher to get it into the cab? Have you ever lifted a 150 lb. cooler full of elk above waist level? How does one do that? What about safety and visibility when stuff is piled on top of the folded seats? In a hard braking situation I don't want stuff behind me at shoulder or head level coming forward into the front seats - I'd rather having it sitting on the floor where it belongs. Am I getting this right?
#1374 of 2059 Star of Texas Rodeo and Fair
Mar 05, 2007 (8:55 am)
if you are in central Texas checkout the Start of Texas Rodoe, Toyota i sthe officail sponser and I was told they will hve the "Prove It " Tour there where you can drive all 5 trucks on and offroad.