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2059 messages, Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
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Replying to: pmusce (Mar 03, 2007 12:51 pm) |
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Replying to: pmusce (Mar 02, 2007 8:12 pm)
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Replying to: jreagan (Mar 03, 2007 1:01 pm) " Active-TRAC (A-TRAC) is the system for off-road 4WD vehicles. This system consists of independent four wheel brake control system and engine torque control system. This system applies the brake to any spinning wheel, and sends torque to the other wheels with grip. Therefore, the vehicle gets strong LSD(Limited Slip Differential) effect, and it has the same traction performance as a center and rear differential locked vehicle. " |
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Replying to: jreagan (Mar 02, 2007 8:18 pm) I think this board has worn out on me... I respect pmusce's posts much more than yours because he is using numbers from both Toyota and Chevy's sites and he is able to accept the fact that he has occasionally made mistakes; like many of us have. But you jreagan, have yet to post any numbers from Toyota's site. You like to cotinually avoide answering even straight-forward questions directly. Instead you bring up other off-subject topics that distract readers from actually dealing with the comparison. If you want to learn anything (which I think is the real issue here -- you don't) from what people are posting here, you need to deal with separate issues separately! There is a revelation for you! I think the other aspect, though I've mentioned it dozens of times is that you're taking this way too personally. That is why you keep attacking others when you can't substantiate your own claims. I even quoted for you where you questioned Toyota's reliability for you and you still didn't own up to it, even though it was YOUR post. Bottom line, I see nothing substantial that you've brought to this discussion other then get people to be distracted from actual direct comparisons. Pmusce is at least making good efforts to post down numbers and facts and we're collectively weeding out mistaken information. Just do us all a favor and go to Toyota's web site and at least LOOK at the numbers, specs; take the tours, etc. Do all the things other posters are doing here. I'm posting from Chevy and Toyota's site; pmusce is doing so too, kdhspyder is as well, even the Titan guy is doing it and he doesn't have much vested interest in where this goes. Just do that for us, and then make some posts on what you've observed. Hearing you call the Tundra ugly for the nth time is just not productive. You have a right to your opinion -- and I've said this over and over again -- get what ever you want and say how you feel about the trucks, but don't misrepresent the information for your benefit! That doesn't give you any credibility. And knocking women drivers with your past posts leads me to believe that you're posting simply to "flame" not actually make a useful contribution. Anyhow, I'm done with this forum, there isn't much new that hasn't been already covered. I think the main discoveries for me about the Silverado are the 12-way power seats on both sides, locking differential, and perhaps some heating for the rear-seat passengers. I still wish it had a bigger rear seat -- and yes, I would use that extra space as I have two large dogs to deal with and cart around -- unfortunately only the Dodge Ram offers something like that and it is a full 19" longer of a truck. Glad to hear that the 2008 Titans will get full beds and more configurations to boot too. That truck has one of the best interiors! Have fun with the forum!
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Replying to: belias (Mar 03, 2007 1:04 pm) And this saying what? Bottom line: Tundra is sacrificing box space for rear seat cab space, correct? There is no direct advantage or disadvantage here, it is all dependant on which you value more. I personally would rather have the extra box space since I think the back seat in the Crewcab GM's is more than sufficient. Now, if I planned on chaufering around NBA players, then I may rethink that. I sat in the backseat of the GM Crewcab again today and it was plenty roomy, not cramped one bit. More room then our full size 4-door sedan has (2004 Impala). |
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Active-TRAC (A-TRAC) is the system for off-road 4WD vehicles. This system consists of independent four wheel brake control system and engine torque control system. This system applies the brake to any spinning wheel, and sends torque to the other wheels with grip. Therefore, the vehicle gets strong LSD(Limited Slip Differential) effect, and it has the same traction performance as a center and rear differential locked vehicle. A-Trac has been proved in other Toyota off-roaders like FJ Cruiser, Land Cruiser, 4Runner. Tundra 4x4 comes with A-Trac standard.
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Replying to: belias (Mar 03, 2007 1:25 pm) I even quoted for you where you questioned Toyota's reliability for you and you still didn't own up to it, even though it was YOUR post. I replied, asking you where in that post did I say Toyota's had poor reliability? IT DOESN'T SAY THAT!!!!!!!! DUH!!! I merely stated you cannot rate a BRAND NEW, segment entering truck based on previous small trucks or cars ratings. Reliability on the Tundra is yet to be known, by anyone!!! Period. GM has redesigned theirs many many times over the past 100 yrs, and yes, this is a new design as well, so reliability on the new GM's is also yet to be known for sure, but predicting their reliability is much more accurate since they have been improving on a current platform for decades. Got it? You have no clue as to how much research I have done or where I have done it. I have been to Toyota's website, many times. I have also been inside a Tundra. Have you been inside both? Driven either? Just because I do not value magazine's opinions and biased comparisons does not make me uneducated on the subject. Go reread my posts, most of the time I am defending GM, not bashing Toyota. And the only way I do bash Toyota is on personal subjective opinions, which I have a right to do. I also have criticized Toy fans for misrepresenting the GM's and their beloved Toys. I have said many times that I think the Tundra is a good truck, but I do not believe it is better then the GM's. I also add my personal opinion about the ugliness of it, what's wrong with that? Why does this forum just have to compare hard numbers and facts, many of which are inaccurate or subjective anyway (such as towing ratings). I still want to know how GM and Toy (and all other's for that matter) come up with these bogus overinflated ratings anyway. What criteria do they use and do they use the same criteria? I highly doubt it. Oh and BTW, the blonde joke was just that.. A JOKE!!! Hence the "hahaha" after it, geez, lighten up for cryin' out loud. Like you've never told a blonde joke before? You're unbelievable. |
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Replying to: gtoskyline (Mar 03, 2007 1:39 pm)
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Replying to: jreagan (Mar 03, 2007 1:46 pm)
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