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2059 messages, Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 31, 2007 5:17 am) How many average owners are going to own the Silverado, for a work truck ???? The majority of the people that have work trucks buy diesel HD 3/4 & 1 ton's.  The half ton owners buy trucks because they can haul house hold furnishings, tow a boat or trailer once in a while. In many cases they want the 4x4 capability for inclement weather and sometimes hunt and fish making a truck the practical vehical for throwing a carcass in the back or fishing poles and tackle boxes in the bed. A 1/2 ton truck is simply a mans automobiles that his spouse likes enough to drive or see's practical use for one. These of course are my opinions based on family, friends, co-workers, and self experience of owning a truck. My wife for example want's me to buy a brand new black 07' GMC Sierra Denali. I told her I want to wait for the 2-mode hybrid since it will achieve the desired fuel economy I'd want. Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 31, 2007 2:16 pm) |
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Keep drinking that toyota koolaid............... Less than a full size (aka height) bed, bottom of the heap in towing capacity, NO snow plow prep. pkg.(yet GM and Ford DO offer it in a 1/2 ton. No wonder its called the 7/8 full size pickup ! Someday yota will catch up! Wish Edmunds would update their truck specs. on the 07 yota so it could be compared to the others. toyota mAY later than sooner innovate rather than imitate. |
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Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm) You forget it has the optional 5.7 381 hp V8 that is the best thing since sliced bread even though it get's 13 mpg God, I can't wait for the Sierra Denali coming out this March to put the Tundra in it's place and it will leave no stone un turned. Rocky
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Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm) The new Tundra hitting next Monday is the Beast of the Market. It's bigger, wider, longer and more powerful than any other 1/2 ton in existence. I can't believe that you have missed all this. Hellooo. The baby 5.4L 300 hp Ford is the smallest and the weakest of all the big engines in the segment. It's only about 2/3rds of the Tundra's power. I'm shocked that you've missed everything. Did you know that there was an Auto Show in Detroit this year. OK I'm poking fun but seriously the F150 is actually the weakest and slowest of all the 5 trucks in the market now. The new Tundra shown at this years Detroit Auto show is the biggest truck on the market. Stupid big.
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Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm) |
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 31, 2007 7:17 pm) The Denali better be good. The Silvy lasted in 1st place for 3 weeks. There is also a couple of other dark secrets that no one has mentioned about the 2007 Silvy. The 6.0L doesn't really tow 10,500# as the specs say it should. Well it does, but you can't buy one. It's a little dark secret that you can buy a 6.0L but it's only as capable as the 5.3L!!! The 5.3L is the smallest and least capable of all the 1/2 ton engines....it's neck and neck with the 5.4L in the F150 for last in the segment. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 31, 2007 8:04 pm) Careful kd, I don't think your fuzzy math is adding up. The Sierra Denali, is SAE certified at 400 hp. and 417 lbs. Tq. which whips the pants off your 381 hp & 401 tq Tundra   Rocky |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 31, 2007 8:13 pm) Do you have any evidence that supports your claims ???? http://www.gmc.com/sierra900/1500/specsDimension.jsp If the Silverado can't pull 10500 then certainly the Tundra can't ? Dr.Fill, you told us all the Silverado, doesn't have the "work truck" capability's of the new Tundra. I've read on various sites that say the Silverado has the highest payload of any half-ton truck which I would think would be critical to a work truck wouldn't it ?????  My god, some of y'all are rough. I had to go out and make sure y'alls claims were factual. My research and conclusion is y'all are giving me more Potato's than Meat to phrase it in nicer words. Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 31, 2007 9:34 pm) The Denali will be a small volume very top-end model to the GMC line..when it comes out. The 6.2L will likely be very competitive with the 5.7L Tundra but only in one configuration Denali vs Crew Max Ltd at 'beaucoup bucks'. That assumes that GM doesn't put some secret closed loop power damper into the programing either. For the rest of the truck market the Tundra 5.7L can be bought in a Reg Cab, Double Cab, Crew Max, 2WD or 4WD, Ltd or SR5 standard version for Joe-everyday-truck-buyer. Regarding the phantom 10,500# towing capacity of the 6.0L it goes to the GM 'Build and Price' feature on the website as compared to the specs/capacities on the same website. Here's the specifics. The 4WD EC Std bed version with the 6.0L has a standard towing capacity of 8600#. ( see specifications/capacities/trailering ) Just below this there is the option to go up to 10000#+ if the vehicle has the 'Max Trailering Package'. Fair enough: .. Now go to the 'Build and Price' feature for a 2007 Silvy EC Std bed 4WD 2LT. .. Go through all the steps and try to find a 6.0L engine anywhere as an option. It's not there. You can't build one and I presume order one. .. But you can get the 6.0L if you know enough to order the Z71 Off Road Package. .. But there is no option to order the 'Max Trailering Package' which the specs above state must be added in order to get the 10000#+ Towing. there is the normal HD Trailering package but that only give you an 8600# capacity. So if you can somehow find the 6.0L to order it you can't get the best version of it only the standard version, which is pretty weak actually since it's only slightly more capable than the 5.3L. Thenyou have to deal with the 4 sec closed loop power-inhibitor program that Edmunds discovered. The Tundra BTW comes Standard ( at no extra cost ) with 10000#+ Towing Capacity on all 5.7L engines. It was published yesterday. The Tundra now has it's foot on the Silvy's neck.
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