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What is this discussion about? Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Truck


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Re: TOO FUNNY [kdhspyder] by alfa_xray2010
Jan 31, 2007 (11:13 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 31, 2007 5:17 am)

You're an idiot. The F-150 is too old? Way behind in capabilities? It just came out in 2004, horsepower #s aside, still meets or beats all other competitors' capabilities. Are you one of those people that thinks a truck needs to be brand new every year?
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This Forum Is Hysterical by thegraduate
Jan 31, 2007 (11:41 am)
Personal insults flying everywhere... It's like an episode of Jerry Springer.
#128 of 2059
Re: TOO FUNNY [alfa_xray2010] by kdhspyder
Jan 31, 2007 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: alfa_xray2010 (Jan 31, 2007 11:13 am)

c'mon don't hold back. Say what you really mean.
 
I know that the F150 just came out in 2004 but..
.. the powertrain is the weakest of all the 5 competitors at 300 hp;
.. it is impossible to get Stability control on any F150 at any price;
.. in addition to having the weakest engine it also has the heaviest frame so it's doubly slow;
.. 4 spd tranny vs Tundra's 6 spd; it should have had the new Ford/GM 6 spd from jump street;
.. all the airbags are not standard; this is a common shortcut Ford is taking across all product lines ( extra money ).
 
However in balance..
.. with it's very strong frame it is second behind the Tundra in towing capability;
.. just don't try to accelerate very fast with a load;
.. it can be ordered with a heavy duty payload package ( extra ) which gives it best-in-class hauling on 4 configurations - but at a price.
.. it has been proven to be very reliable and durable.
.. can Ford spend enough money to give the next Gen a competitive top-end drive train?
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Re: TOO FUNNY [kdhspyder] by rockylee
Jan 31, 2007 (2:16 pm)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 31, 2007 5:17 am)

The interior controls are a good point of discussion. I actually do like the Silverado's look better as being more upscale... but is it too nice to be a truck? Especially a work truck.
 
How many average owners are going to own the Silverado, for a work truck ???? The majority of the people that have work trucks buy diesel HD 3/4 & 1 ton's. The half ton owners buy trucks because they can haul house hold furnishings, tow a boat or trailer once in a while. In many cases they want the 4x4 capability for inclement weather and sometimes hunt and fish making a truck the practical vehical for throwing a carcass in the back or fishing poles and tackle boxes in the bed. A 1/2 ton truck is simply a mans automobiles that his spouse likes enough to drive or see's practical use for one.
 
These of course are my opinions based on family, friends, co-workers, and self experience of owning a truck. My wife for example want's me to buy a brand new black 07' GMC Sierra Denali. I told her I want to wait for the 2-mode hybrid since it will achieve the desired fuel economy I'd want.
 
Rocky
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Re: TOO FUNNY [rockylee] by kdhspyder
Jan 31, 2007 (4:06 pm)

Replying to: rockylee (Jan 31, 2007 2:16 pm)

That's a good alternate view and one that everyone involved will be watching.
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YEA YEA by geo9
Jan 31, 2007 (7:03 pm)
Keep drinking that toyota koolaid...............
 
Less than a full size (aka height) bed, bottom of the heap
in towing capacity, NO snow plow prep. pkg.(yet GM and Ford
DO offer it in a 1/2 ton.
No wonder its called the 7/8 full size pickup !
Someday yota will catch up!
Wish Edmunds would update their truck specs. on the 07 yota
so it could be compared to the others.
 
toyota mAY later than sooner innovate rather than imitate.
#132 of 2059
Re: YEA YEA [geo9] by rockylee
Jan 31, 2007 (7:17 pm)

Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm)

geo9,
 
You forget it has the optional 5.7 381 hp V8 that is the best thing since sliced bread even though it get's 13 mpg
 
God, I can't wait for the Sierra Denali coming out this March to put the Tundra in it's place and it will leave no stone un turned.
 
Rocky
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Re: YEA YEA [geo9] by kdhspyder
Jan 31, 2007 (8:04 pm)

Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm)

Have you been under a rock for the last 6 months?
 
The new Tundra hitting next Monday is the Beast of the Market. It's bigger, wider, longer and more powerful than any other 1/2 ton in existence. I can't believe that you have missed all this. Hellooo.
 
The baby 5.4L 300 hp Ford is the smallest and the weakest of all the big engines in the segment. It's only about 2/3rds of the Tundra's power. I'm shocked that you've missed everything. Did you know that there was an Auto Show in Detroit this year.
 
OK I'm poking fun but seriously the F150 is actually the weakest and slowest of all the 5 trucks in the market now. The new Tundra shown at this years Detroit Auto show is the biggest truck on the market. Stupid big.
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Re: YEA YEA [geo9] by thegraduate
Jan 31, 2007 (8:10 pm)

Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm)

You crack me up with this stuff... keep it coming! It's hysterical (assuming you know about the new for 07 Tundra). If not, you should learn about it.
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Re: YEA YEA [rockylee] by kdhspyder
Jan 31, 2007 (8:13 pm)

Replying to: rockylee (Jan 31, 2007 7:17 pm)

Careful Rock... the Tundra and the Titan smoked the MT TOTY in fuel economy in Edmunds test. Not to mention acceleration and stopping ( and likely towing since the MT TOTY has that secret 4 second hiccup which GM conveniently didn't tell buyers about ).
 
The Denali better be good. The Silvy lasted in 1st place for 3 weeks. There is also a couple of other dark secrets that no one has mentioned about the 2007 Silvy. The 6.0L doesn't really tow 10,500# as the specs say it should. Well it does, but you can't buy one. It's a little dark secret that you can buy a 6.0L but it's only as capable as the 5.3L!!! The 5.3L is the smallest and least capable of all the 1/2 ton engines....it's neck and neck with the 5.4L in the F150 for last in the segment.

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