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What is this discussion about? Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Truck


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Re: Non-subjective [jreagan] by belias
Mar 02, 2007 (6:39 pm)

Replying to: jreagan (Mar 02, 2007 6:29 pm)

jreagan,
Speak for yourself on this one. If rear-seat space was of no concern, it wouldn't be increasing on every truck model for the last 30 years. More to the point is that there is more leg room without as much bed space taken out. That says something about the quality of the design. Add 6 inches of cab room, take 3 out of the bed -- better design.
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Re: Non-subjective [belias] by jreagan
Mar 02, 2007 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 6:18 pm)

But actual equipment to help prevent and protect in an accident favor the Tundra when you consider air-bags, drive/brake controls (mentioned previously). Crush zones, frame and cab design are all designed on the Tundra as well.
 
Air bags? Please!!! the GM's are just as good, show me how they aren't? And DON"T tell me 6 or 8 or 4000 is better than 4. Look at area and "Smartness".
Drive/Brake controls? Please elaborate. With facts please. The GM's have the same technology.
Crush Zones? Um, they all have these. Why are Toyotas better?
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Re: Non-subjective [belias] by jreagan
Mar 02, 2007 (6:42 pm)

Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 6:39 pm)

Add 6 inches of cab room, take 3 out of the bed -- better design.
Don't forget, the overall length is increased too. That makes big difference since people (like me) have limited garage space.
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Re: Reply to Belias [belias] by jreagan
Mar 02, 2007 (6:45 pm)

Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 6:36 pm)

Agreed..equal to, but NOT better than GM's. Again, same technology, different terminology.
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Re: Non-subjective [jreagan] by belias
Mar 02, 2007 (6:45 pm)

Replying to: jreagan (Mar 02, 2007 6:35 pm)

You answered your own question here... GM's is deeper because it is better. Deeper means you can hold more things in the bed under a hard or soft tonneau covers such as those big 5-gallon paint cans, etc.
Point is it isn't a big deal, but I mentioned it because it was mentioned that 3 inches on the short-truck bed was mentioned. Point is if you get a crew cab, you're more concerned with interior space anyway. The fact that it has a 3" shorter bed is not too relevent. Now if it was on a long bed, then I would agree with you. But we're talking a crew cab model. So I mentioned the depth as well to make the point. Either way, the Tundra gets the extra 6" of interior room - BMW charges an extra $6K for 4.7" more room in the back seat of their 7 series... this is practically free.
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Re: Reply to Belias [belias] by jreagan
Mar 02, 2007 (6:47 pm)

Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 5:51 pm)

You Toy guys can all go by stupid magazines reports and comparos, but let's be realistic, Money talks here. The more they advertise, the more attention and good PR they get.
I go by personal experience!!! And my personal experience shows me that GM is an awesome vehicle when it comes to reliability. nuff said!!
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Re: Non-subjective [jreagan] by belias
Mar 02, 2007 (6:48 pm)

Replying to: jreagan (Mar 02, 2007 6:40 pm)

See post 1242 for why controls are better. Again, if you can't see the benefit of more air bags then your logic is seriously flawed. Get t-boned in a car accident and you'll be praying for those extra side air bags. Both the Tundra and Silverado use "smart" air bags -- no difference there, just less available on the SIlverado and less standard.
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Re: Non-subjective [belias] by jreagan
Mar 02, 2007 (6:50 pm)

Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 5:57 pm)

Yes, stronger means more hp/torque.
 
That is your opinion. My defintion of strength also includes robustness and durability. ie: How good is a pro athlete (football player or any other sport where strength is required) if he cannot play the entire game?
  
The 6.0 GM has 6-bolt mains, how many does the Toy have? 2? maybe 4?
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Re: Non-subjective [belias] by jreagan
Mar 02, 2007 (6:53 pm)

Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 6:09 pm)

I agree that the side airbags should be standard, and by next they will be..on ALL vehicles, as mandated by our government. notice I said OUR government. Not Japan's.
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Re: Reply to Belias [jreagan] by belias
Mar 02, 2007 (6:53 pm)

Replying to: jreagan (Mar 02, 2007 6:47 pm)

jreagan,
Nobody claimed that YOUR particular vehicle isn't reliable. What you claimed earlier was that GM trucks were more reliable than Toyota. Well, I wanted to give you reputable sources that definitely show otherwise. I don't wish for you to have any problems at all with your truck, I hope your experience is a good one. But we as consumers can't just depend on one or two individual accounts -- they vary so much. We have to depend on cumulative information to get an idea of paterns or weaknesses in design. That is all.
BTW, CR does not get any PR or money from advertising from anybody. As far as I know, neither does the DMV.

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