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2059 messages, Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
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Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 1:53 am) Its gonna stand on its head a spit nickels and out perform everybody else ! Yep, they certainly will. 200k in the full size truck market is nothing considering the previous Tundra was selling 100k plus. The Titan will probably take the brunt of that blow. The rest will easily be carved out of the big 3. I can guarantee that Toyota will be a major player in the full size truck market. Toyota is renown throughout the world for making bullet proof trucks that can handle anything. What a laugh ! Its taken years to barely break the 100k mark. But the new excuse is they are gonna sell 200k this year............ Denial is a good thing, it can prevent or at least postpone a nervous breakdown. Keep at it. PLEASE spare me on toyota wiz-bang 99 speed automatic transmission and the failure of other mfrs. not offering them yet (except Cadillac and Ford)! Put down the koolaid and take a trip More denial? Dismissing the the new Toyota 6 speed is akin to the big 3 dismissing the Camry in the early 80s. over to the 07 camry problem thread(s) and read about the new transmission and its MANY complaints and issues! I'm familiar with with Toyota's growing pains. The difference is that Toyota will recognize and correct these problems quickly where the big 3 typically just keep plodding along with their quality problems. Granted they have made big improvements, but they are painfully slow in coming. The new silvy is a big improvement over the previous generation, but even many rabid GM fans admit that last generation GM trucks were very sub par (see GMI) to be kind. It's funny that in the year that Toyota offers a true full size contender, GM finally gets their act together and offers a really good truck (despite powertrain deficiencies ie. 4 sec lag, 4 speed). If you want to give your business to a sub par company that only gives a quality product in the face of fierce competition instead of quality being part of their DNA like Toyota and Honda, be my guest. If anybody is drinking kool aid it is domestic fans that buy one poor quality vehicle after another because they think it's their patriotic duty. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 31, 2007 5:17 am)
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Personal insults flying everywhere... It's like an episode of Jerry Springer.
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Replying to: alfa_xray2010 (Jan 31, 2007 11:13 am) I know that the F150 just came out in 2004 but.. .. the powertrain is the weakest of all the 5 competitors at 300 hp; .. it is impossible to get Stability control on any F150 at any price; .. in addition to having the weakest engine it also has the heaviest frame so it's doubly slow; .. 4 spd tranny vs Tundra's 6 spd; it should have had the new Ford/GM 6 spd from jump street; .. all the airbags are not standard; this is a common shortcut Ford is taking across all product lines ( extra money ). However in balance.. .. with it's very strong frame it is second behind the Tundra in towing capability; .. just don't try to accelerate very fast with a load; .. it can be ordered with a heavy duty payload package ( extra ) which gives it best-in-class hauling on 4 configurations - but at a price. .. it has been proven to be very reliable and durable. .. can Ford spend enough money to give the next Gen a competitive top-end drive train? |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 31, 2007 5:17 am) How many average owners are going to own the Silverado, for a work truck ???? The majority of the people that have work trucks buy diesel HD 3/4 & 1 ton's.  The half ton owners buy trucks because they can haul house hold furnishings, tow a boat or trailer once in a while. In many cases they want the 4x4 capability for inclement weather and sometimes hunt and fish making a truck the practical vehical for throwing a carcass in the back or fishing poles and tackle boxes in the bed. A 1/2 ton truck is simply a mans automobiles that his spouse likes enough to drive or see's practical use for one. These of course are my opinions based on family, friends, co-workers, and self experience of owning a truck. My wife for example want's me to buy a brand new black 07' GMC Sierra Denali. I told her I want to wait for the 2-mode hybrid since it will achieve the desired fuel economy I'd want. Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 31, 2007 2:16 pm) |
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Keep drinking that toyota koolaid............... Less than a full size (aka height) bed, bottom of the heap in towing capacity, NO snow plow prep. pkg.(yet GM and Ford DO offer it in a 1/2 ton. No wonder its called the 7/8 full size pickup ! Someday yota will catch up! Wish Edmunds would update their truck specs. on the 07 yota so it could be compared to the others. toyota mAY later than sooner innovate rather than imitate. |
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Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm) You forget it has the optional 5.7 381 hp V8 that is the best thing since sliced bread even though it get's 13 mpg God, I can't wait for the Sierra Denali coming out this March to put the Tundra in it's place and it will leave no stone un turned. Rocky
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Replying to: geo9 (Jan 31, 2007 7:03 pm) The new Tundra hitting next Monday is the Beast of the Market. It's bigger, wider, longer and more powerful than any other 1/2 ton in existence. I can't believe that you have missed all this. Hellooo. The baby 5.4L 300 hp Ford is the smallest and the weakest of all the big engines in the segment. It's only about 2/3rds of the Tundra's power. I'm shocked that you've missed everything. Did you know that there was an Auto Show in Detroit this year. OK I'm poking fun but seriously the F150 is actually the weakest and slowest of all the 5 trucks in the market now. The new Tundra shown at this years Detroit Auto show is the biggest truck on the market. Stupid big.
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