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2059 messages, Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
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Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 10:54 am) You're wrong on this; base models do not include audio input jacks. The only one that doesn't include it is the WT Platform. Which up until now, we haven't been comparing. Again, partially correct... just please go to the Toyota web site and read about the actual technology, to sum up, there is much more going on with Toyota's. OK, I will, but have you? Here is how Stabilitrak (w/ Proactive Roll Avoidance) works: The Stabilitrak Control Module compares your steering input with the trucks actual response and then, if necessary, makes small, individual brake applications to enhance control and keep you on track. Stabilitrak automatically intervenes when it senses loss of lateral traction (sideslip), Understeer (plowing) or Oversteer (Fishtailing). In these situations, the system applies brake pressure and if necessary, adjusts engine torque to help the driver get the vehicle back on track. Now, how does Toyota's work? What makes it superior?
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Replying to: pmusce (Mar 02, 2007 1:14 pm) 
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Active Fuel Management (aka DoD or displacement on demand) Deep Skirt cast aluminum block (GM 6.0) with 6-bolt main bearings. Tow-Haul mode. (not sure, does Toy have this?) Newly designed frame: I won't go into this since it has been beaten to death already, but it is superior. Read about it. Hyd engine mounts, exhaust and induction tuning optimization, spray-on liquid dampener, underhood blanket, enhanced front and side dash mats, back of cab acoustic mat, reduced exterior gaps, and enhanced aerodynamics all to provide the quietest ride. Even the "inferior" (according to Toy lovers) 4-speed tranny's now have an input speed sensor and standalone transmission control modules that, based on driver input, optimize shift quality. EVERY feedback post from new GM buyers have commented on how smooth the GM's tranny shifts. So, maybe the 6-speed Toy tranny is more "hype" than anything? Either way, GM's will have the 6-speed later this year anyway (already do in limited availability). Automatic Rear Locking Differential. Autotrac 4x4 system. Simply put an AWESOME feature. Period. 5 suspension choices. Unmatched by Toyota. Segment leading configurability. 7 engines, 3 cab sizes, 3 box sizes. Simply the best for configuring to your individual needs. Heated winshield washer fluid system. Rainsense Wiper System. 12-way power heated leather seats. (Both driver and passenger have 12-way power) Heated side mirrors. Power adjustable pedals. Rear park assist. Not saying Toyota doesn't have any of these, just wanted to mention them. Of course there are MANY more, but I left out the ones I know Toy has. You wanted non-subjective stuff, there ya go.
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Replying to: jreagan (Mar 02, 2007 3:39 pm) |
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Replying to: pmusce (Mar 02, 2007 3:25 pm) 1) The truck is 6 inches longer than the Silverado Crew Cab 2) The bed is 3 inches shorter than the Silverado Crew Cab Good catch pmusce. I am assuming you mean more "rear" seat legroom. Kind of a high price to pay for a little bit more rear seat legroom, isn't it? Oh, and Belias, do your dogs benefit from more rear seat legroom?  I'd say headroom is more important anyway. |
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Replying to: toykicks (Mar 02, 2007 4:03 pm) Look at this picture. Which doors look bigger to you? http://autodeadline.com/detail?Source=&mid=WKA2007010744172&mime=JPG"> |
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Replying to: pmusce (Mar 02, 2007 1:14 pm) Chevy regular cab (n/a), Toyota regular cab (n/a) Chevy extended cab (34.3), Toyota double cab (34.7) Chevy crew cab (38.7), Toyota crewmax (44.5) I'll completely ignore your comments on the parking lot thing... doesn't even make sense. |
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Replying to: jreagan (Mar 02, 2007 4:05 pm)
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Replying to: pmusce (Mar 02, 2007 2:43 pm) Silverado has many repeat buyers just like Ford and Dodge. There are no other alternatives... that is hardly a good reason. Remember, these are based on the previous-year models, you can't take reliability on either of these new trucks until they are a few years old. But jreagan wanted to suppose otherwise and stated that the Silverado was more reliable. Still haven't seen anything "statistical" on that. Show me something as good or better then what CR states and I'll check it out. But it looks like even the DMV's statistics are way in Toyota's favor (and that is, again, another reliable source). See http://www.dmv.org/recalls.php I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on the HVAC ducts, I haven't seen them, but if you say they're there, I'll trust you on that...
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