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2059 messages, Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
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Replying to: rorr (Mar 02, 2007 1:46 pm) |
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Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 9:19 am)  I will reply to each section of your post but I will do it over a couple of my own posts so it does not get to large. I will then list the non-subjective advantages the Silverado has over the Tundra. "Just saw all the new posts and will try to get some replies posted this weekend if possible, but just wanted to point out that from the owners of Chevy/GMC, Dodge, and Ford truck owners themselves, the full-size domestic truck segment scored "mediocre" in CRs latest review. That is with a sample size of 1.3 million total automotive customers. Heck of a lot more than on this forum. Honda did best overall, Toyota did very well also, but two or three models were not highly recommended. Still, their trucks fared much better then the domestics (mid-size included). If I were a Chevy man on this forum, I would hardly be arguing reliability favoring Chevy/GMC." In order for a survey to be statistically valid it has to be based on a random sampling. If you have take any courses on surveying and statistics, you will know this to be 100% true. Consumer Reports does not use random sampling. Having said that, how can you say either of these trucks would be more reliable or durable? They are both new. As well, chevy trucks have a reputation for being both reliable and durable, why would you suggest otherwise? It's one of the reasons Silverado buyers are so loyal. "jreagan, So, rain sense wipers and heated washer fluid outdo: - better audio systems across the line for Tundra (all have aux input jacks and mp3 capability) including a 12-speaker 440W JBL system available on some models (as opposed to a 6-speaker Bose system)" I'm not an audiophile, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. - heating/cooling ducts for rear-seat passengers in the Tundra (none on the Chevy) Underseat heating/cooling ducts are standard on almost all GM vehicles (example the cobalt has them). The GTM800's have this. More to come...
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Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 11:45 am) Stronger? Hmmm Well, Hp and torque are a little higher (14 hp and 26lb-ft), so, technically the Tundra wins this category (this year anyway). However (and this is my "Subjective" part). As I have said, both of these engines have more than adequate hp, torque and acceleration for the limits of a 1/2 ton truck. So, does this minor difference make the truck better or more capable? NO. Now, as for Stronger...The GM 6.0 is an all-aluminum block with a "Deep-Skirt" design and 6-bolt main bearing caps with cross-bolts. This limits crank-flex, stiffens the engines structure and reduces overall vibrations. Plus, the aluminum block reduces weight, and quickens heat up (for those cold MN winter mornings). So, hp and torque aside, which engine is "Stronger" overall? If the additional 14hp and 26lb-ft is really necessary for your needs (honestly?) for everyday use (NOT streetlight racing), then Tundra wins this category. But for overall engine strength, both are equally capable. As for engine design, The Tundra uses a modern DOHC design and the GM still uses a Cam-in-Block pushrod valve design. I am not sure why, but since they use DOHCs in their 4's, V6's and in some V8's (Cadillac Northstar) but still prefer the pushrod design in the rest of their V8's (Trucks and Corvette engines) I think they have their reasons. Durability? Maybe. But I do think the DOHC engines are higher tech, but I am not an engine designer, so I cannot elaborate on this or say which is better. New topic maybe? If you have input on this, please speak up, I would like to know. And don't just say "DOHCs are better", tell me why. I already think they are better but would like facts for each design.
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Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 11:46 am) I will also only speak for Crewcabs, since this is the truck I researched and bought. Both have HUGE interiors and will fit my family comfortably. So, I would call this one a draw (for me). Again, if you really need the extra 1/4 inch, fine Toyota wins this category. Stay tuned...
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Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 11:47 am) Wheels: GM has more options...17", 18" and 20". So, GM wins this category. Some people actually prefer 17" wheels for more sidewall (for offroading, etc). The cost for upgrading from 17" to 18" is minimal. Brakes: See other post from pmusce, I agree. I would also add that since none of us are automotive engineers, we cannot base brake quality on size alone. The only thing we can base it on is documented braking capability.
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Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 11:48 am) Don't see how quantity has anything to do with it. We should compare protection area and technology. GM's cover the entire side from the armrest up, front to back, I can't see how it can get any better. Also, GM has the "Smartest" airbags. The front ones not only detect passenger presence, but base the deployment rate on persons size (weight). Also, the side curtain airbags are programmed to stay inflated for up to 6 seconds for complete rollover protection. GM also uses Safety Belt Pretensioners with EMR's (Energy Mgmt Retractors). Read more about it, but basically they are smart belt tensioners and protect you from seatblet injuries. Very ingenious, read about it before you comment.
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Replying to: belias (Mar 02, 2007 11:49 am) This is a continuation from previous post on airbags... Not sure what Toy's have, but here is what GM's have (in addition to the features listed in previous airbag post). Onstar (new version 7.0): Not only automatically notifies Emergency services upon airbag deployment, but also calls you after a minor accident in which the airbags do not deploy to make sure you are ok and to see if E-services are necessary. This is only one of several new enhancements to Onstars' system. Diagnostics are also improved and will e-mail you reports on complete system operation. Not bad, my car will e-mail me when it needs something or just to let me know it's functioning properly. (ALL systems, including safety systems such as the ABS system). Tire Pressure Monitor: Standard on ALL GM trucks. The DIC can display the tire pressure of each individual tire and alert you when one falls below a specified pressure. Enhanced Safety Cage and Crush Zones: read about it on their website for complete details. But basically, the frame and cab are designed with high-tech features aimed at safety in crashes. There are many more safety features, but I believe Tundra would also have them, so I am not going to type them all out.
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Replying to: rorr (Mar 02, 2007 2:11 pm) Go Here http://autodeadline.com/detail?source=&mid=WKA2006080228543&mime=JPG to see how accessable the extended cab interior is. |
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Replying to: jreagan (Mar 02, 2007 2:55 pm) 1) The truck is 6 inches longer than the Silverado Crew Cab 2) The bed is 3 inches shorter than the Silverado Crew Cab The Silverado has more headroom by about an inch in all configurations than the Tundra. The Tundra has more shoulder and hip room by about 1/2 inch in most configurations. I'm like you jreagan, I sat in both and room was no problem in either one.
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Replying to: rorr (Mar 02, 2007 1:46 pm) 1. Unlike the Toyota 5.7 and the GM V8's it has a belt instead of a chain. Belts do not belong on a full size pichup truck. 2. It gets worse gas mileage than the Toyota 5.7. 15/18 in City/Highway. The GM 4.8 gets 16/20, the 5.3 gets 16/22 (thanks to cylinder deactivation). |
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