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Well the New Silverado among many things has one thing special............. by rockylee
Jan 23, 2007 (10:44 pm)
It was in a very popular song........
 
This is Our Country, This is Our Truck
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGvVs5oSVRk
 

 
Rocky
#113 of 2059
Re: Well the New Silverado among many things has one thing special............. [rockylee] by ahoron
Jan 26, 2007 (3:24 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Jan 23, 2007 10:44 pm)

That song sucks. Why do you need a crappy song to sell trucks? Toyota will be number one in the full size truck in a few years. They did it with the cars. The quality is the reason. Toyota will likely join the heavy duty segment in time and take it over as well. Only time will tell Just my opinion, don't get too upset please!
#114 of 2059
Re: Well the New Silverado among many things has one thing special............. [ahoron] by rockylee
Jan 26, 2007 (7:50 am)

Replying to: ahoron (Jan 26, 2007 3:24 am)

I won't get upset. The Silverado, won't have to worry too much after the hype wears off. Toyota, is limited to 200,000 units so they won't budge on sticker prices. I know one guy at work that has a 07' Tundra on order but is second guessing his decision once his friend rolled in the parking lot with a 07' GMC Sierra Z-71 LTZ. I was like Cody, I told you the new GM trucks are "that cool" I'm trying to convince him to get a new Sierra Denali
 
Rocky
 
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Re: Well the New Silverado among many things has one thing special............. [ahoron] by dagolfer
Jan 27, 2007 (6:44 am)

Replying to: ahoron (Jan 26, 2007 3:24 am)

You think Toyota will take over full size trucks in a few years? Do you remember the T-100?
#116 of 2059
Re: Well the New Silverado among many things has one thing special............. [dagolfer] by ggesq
Jan 27, 2007 (10:10 am)

Replying to: dagolfer (Jan 27, 2007 6:44 am)

Only time will tell I guess. Regarding the T-100- good point. Toyota is NOW taking the full size truck market seriously as evidenced by the new Tundra.
#117 of 2059
Re: Well the New Silverado among many things has one thing special............. [ggesq] by kdhspyder
Jan 27, 2007 (3:45 pm)

Replying to: ggesq (Jan 27, 2007 10:10 am)

Toyota generally does things at their own speed and often takes baby steps. If the view is 20-30 years out then what occurs in this particular year or next is not all that important as long as there is movement toward the final goal.
 
From the Corona to the Camry as No 1 was at least 30 years.
From the Toyota pickup to the Tacoma is nearing 25 years.
From the T100 in 1993 to the Gen 4 Tundra in 2117 would only be 25 years.
 
All in good time.
#118 of 2059
I have the feeling those baby steps will get smaller... by hpia4v2
Jan 28, 2007 (12:04 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 27, 2007 3:45 pm)

Once GM/Ford gets rid their excess baggage in the form of medical/pension on those retired auto workers I can't imagine Toyota will have the upper hands anymore.
 
Let's see...
Ohh... all the works (Toyota/GM/Ford/Honda) are done by non-union workers in the continent of USA!
 
Right now I am looking to get a real1/2 ton, I like Chevy Silverado for styling/price proven 4-speed tranmission and Toyota for the 6-speed + reclining rear seats. But the hold out for me on Silverado is the AFM 6.0L engine, not sure if it'll last 100000 miles without any problem on the valve lifters. At the end I just need to make sure the truck I am buying will fit my needs, I can careless who makes it.
#119 of 2059
Re: I have the feeling those baby steps will get smaller... [hpia4v2] by kdhspyder
Jan 28, 2007 (10:10 am)

Replying to: hpia4v2 (Jan 28, 2007 12:04 am)

The AFM from SOTP reports and from Edmunds review last week seems to offer little or nothing in real world fuel economy. A figure I've heard is about 5% improvement at best. Edmunds seems to find that it's Long Term Silvy is very poor overal though.
 
I believe that Honda's findings on the Accord Hybrid and Odyssey are also modest at best in terms of fuel economy.
#120 of 2059
What matters by gearhead1
Jan 28, 2007 (10:24 am)
It amuses me to no end how people talk about the interiors of these trucks. It's irrelavent whether you want the stodgy interior of the Chevy or the more progressive interior of the Tundra (though, I'm not a fan of silver plastic).
 
If your buying a vehicle in this category, your looking for capability and it boils down to powertrain. When it comes to powertrain, the Chevy is a distant second place. With a 6.0 liter engine that has a 4 second lag (Edmunds) to make its maximum horse power which still falls significantly short of the Toyota 5.7 liter, it really is no contest. On top of that the Chevy has a 4 speed transmission with dead spots in the power band (Edmunds). The 6 speed tranny on the Tundra will pull that monster to 60 mph in 6.3 seconds. This 0-60 time speaks directly to how it will handle a load under tow as opposed to the "sleepy" (Edmunds)powertrain in the Chevy.
 
Chevy rushed its truck to market to take MTOTY. It brought a knife to a gunfight, and it's apparent they were outgunned. The tranny is critical when delivering the power of the engine to the wheels. How could GM even consider bringing a 4 speed to market when they knew Toyota had a 6 speed coming? Once again the domestics are asleep at the wheel thinking "Don't worry, the japanese can't compete with us in this segment. They are wrong, very wrong.
 
Real truckers are always curious about the biggest, baddest truck out there. Even if they are loyal to domestics, most of them will be curious to drive the Tundra. The new Tundra is to big for my needs and probably to big for many current Tundra owners, but it will appeal to the legions of half ton domestic owners that feel/need to own a monster. Toyota is probably banking that current Tundra owners will find either the smaller Tacoma or the huge 07 tundra will meet their needs. We'll see.
#121 of 2059
TOO FUNNY by geo9
Jan 31, 2007 (1:53 am)
toyta gonna be #1, toyota gonna sell 200k units,
Its gonna stand on its head a spit nickels and
out perform everybody else !
 
What a laugh ! Its taken years to barely break
the 100k mark. But the new excuse is they are gonna
sell 200k this year............
 
Heck it took them a few years to offer a FACTORY
installed trailer hitch !
Someday they MIGHT offer a factory snowplow prep
pk. like the big 3 do !
 
PLEASE spare me on toyota wiz-bang 99 speed automatic
transmission and the failure of other mfrs. not offering
them yet (except Cadillac and Ford)! Put down the koolaid and take a trip
over to the 07 camry problem thread(s) and read about
the new transmission and its MANY complaints and issues!
 
I need some of that koolaid !

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