Toyota Tundra vs. Chevrolet Silverado - READ ONLY

2059 messages,  Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 6:33 AM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Truck

#1002 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [pmusce] by kdhspyder

Feb 27, 2007 (11:09 am)

Replying to: pmusce (Feb 27, 2007 10:48 am)
300 pounds is significantly behind?. The GM HDs' tow 16,000 pounds, which is what people who do real towing use. If you had a 10,000 pound trailer, would you buy a 1/2 ton pickup to tow it? Thats HD territory. GM won the braking in the C&D comparison by the way.
 
No but 2000# is significant, and no 2WD T900 Silverado is within 1500# of the Tundra and in most cases it's over 2000# less than the Tundra.
 
BTW, don't try to offer the Silvy with the Max Trailering Package.... you can't buy a T900 Silvy that way, Chevy isn't offering it this year. ... Maybe next year.

#1003 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [kdhspyder] by jreagan

Feb 27, 2007 (11:09 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 27, 2007 10:46 am)
That's the now-well known ( thanks to Edmunds ) Torque Management 4 sec closed loop GM slipped into the 6.0L so that the 4 spd tranny's wouldn't grenade.
 
That is NOT the reason. I am not going through this again. Want to know the real reason? Research it like I did.

#1004 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [pmusce] by belias

Feb 27, 2007 (11:10 am)

Replying to: pmusce (Feb 27, 2007 10:37 am)
The Chevy gets a better ride because the comparison stated that they had nothing but a TRD off-road version of the Tundra to compare it to. The Chevy is doing a better job with suspension to get that ride and sacrificing some control when the bed is loaded. Again... it is a balance aspect.
One possible reason that a new Tundra would get a fully boxed frame is if it offers a 3/4 ton or 1 ton variant. That is expected as any of those trucks from Ford, Dodge, Chevy, and GMC also have it.
Again, nobody is arguing the strength aspect, but I find it hilarious that though there is no difference cited (by those that actually compared the trucks without the off-road package on the Tundra) that there is this perceived notion that the Tundra is somehow weaker. All of its numbers are better than the Chevy in that regard. So how is that proved? The frame they're using is obviously strong enough to do what any other truck can do and more.

#1005 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [pmusce] by toykicks

Feb 27, 2007 (11:13 am)

Replying to: pmusce (Feb 27, 2007 10:48 am)
C&D hates toyota. They bash anything they put out. But they love hondas and others i wonder why? probably its due to GM, ford and chryslers down fall? I dont even read their crap since they dont really test trucks they just car test them.

#1006 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [kdhspyder] by jreagan

Feb 27, 2007 (11:14 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 27, 2007 11:09 am)
BTW, don't try to offer the Silvy with the Max Trailering Package.... you can't buy a T900 Silvy that way, Chevy isn't offering it this year. ... Maybe next year.
 
BS, have you shopped Chevy's? I drove one with it. Nice try!!!

#1007 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [jreagan] by belias

Feb 27, 2007 (11:16 am)

Replying to: jreagan (Feb 27, 2007 11:02 am)
You crack me up! If that is true, than why are other GM vehicles making 8 airbags optional? Hmmmm? All side-curtain airbags are pretty much the same size...
That isn't offered on the Silverado. And I like your logic on having more things "optional" as a benefit. Oh yes, please do not include that with my purchase!! I want to pay "extra" for it! I really hope you were kidding!

#1008 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [belias] by jreagan

Feb 27, 2007 (11:18 am)

Replying to: belias (Feb 27, 2007 11:10 am)
Just because it isn't quantifiable in terms you can understand, it's not better? Get a clue. Ask the Engineers who designed it and I am sure they can give you specifics as to why it's better, but you probably still wouldn't understand. hmm, maybe if it made it do the 1/4 mile a 1/10 of a second faster, then would it make the truck better?

#1009 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [jreagan] by toykicks

Feb 27, 2007 (11:19 am)

Replying to: jreagan (Feb 27, 2007 11:14 am)
The rear end on the new tundra is the same as most 3/4 ton trucks. Does anyone know if its a Dana 60-70?

#1010 of 2059 Legit by belias

Feb 27, 2007 (11:20 am)

I think the GM guys are getting frustrated... there isn't anything too tangible that they can point to that is worse on the Tundra then on the Chevy... that's why we're suddenly starting to see claims that "towing" numbers are all exaggerated...
That is funny since that was their big claim to fame for much of the last 3 decades... now suddenly that they aren't 1st in this area (in the 1/2 ton market) it is suddenly "unimportant". But hey, the Tundra has low tow hooks...

#1011 of 2059 Re: Just read the review of the Tundra by C&D [belias] by jreagan

Feb 27, 2007 (11:21 am)

Replying to: belias (Feb 27, 2007 11:16 am)
Look at the pics of the interior showing the airbags inflated and then come back and tell me there isn't sufficient protection....
 
Options ARE a benefit. If you think std = free, you really are ignorant.

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