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#1996 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [yatesjo] by ateixeira
Feb 11, 2009 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (Feb 10, 2009 12:56 pm)

The odds of a new small minivan being launched in the US are right about at zero.
 
Toyota brought the Venza instead, for instance.
#1997 of 2021
by decon
Feb 16, 2009 (8:19 pm)
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Wasn't this the photos for 2010?
 
http://jalopnik.com/5040658/2010-toyota-sienna-spotted-testing-in-desert-not-a-s- occer-game-in-sight
 
Is it true that the new model will be pushed back another year? I was waiting for the 2010 to decide whether to get that or 2009 model.
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I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... by Tim_in_Japan
Feb 17, 2009 (2:46 am)
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Take a look at what the Japanese get to buy. This is the Alphard. If it were to come to the US, they would most likely bring it as a Lexus. Toyota Alphard. Also take a look at the Estima. This too is far better than that the US market gets. Maybe if there is enough interest from the US market, Toyota will get the point and stop making the current Sienna and bring one of their own, home grown vans to the US. Toyota Estima
#1999 of 2021
Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [Tim_in_Japan] by ateixeira
Feb 19, 2009 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 17, 2009 2:46 am)

I don't really like that Alphard. Way too square. It looks like the old Ford Aerostar to me. And those wheels look tiny, what's up with that?
 
The Estima looks very modern (I like it) but I'm not sure the Jetsons look would do as well in the US.
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Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [Tim_in_Japan] by yatesjo
Feb 19, 2009 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 17, 2009 2:46 am)

The Alphard is a pretty odd looking beast. The Estima hearkens back to the GM "dustbuster" style minivans from the early 90s... not a good thing in my opinion. The Sienna isn't pretty, but it is the least ugly of the three.
 
I'm skeptical that Toyota could support 2 minivans in the US market, and the Sienna size would sell more vans. If there really was a strong demand for smaller minivans the Mazda 5 should have a bigger market share. US Market minivans keep growing with each generation because that is the way most of us want them.
#2001 of 2021
Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [yatesjo] by Tim_in_Japan
Feb 20, 2009 (1:23 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (Feb 19, 2009 11:37 am)

Well I guess everyone has their own opinion. Trust me, how could anyone compair a Ford to a Toyota. I have no idea what Mazda was thinking when they placed the Mazda 5 in the MPV's place. You should see the new one over here in Japan. Take a look at the interior snap shots of the Alphard.
 
Interior of Toyota Alphard
 
I drive a 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan, and this van is larger than mine. Also the Estima is just as large as my DGC, but 1000 percent nicer. The only reason I purchased the DGC was because I was coming back to the US three years ago, and you cannot bring over the Alphard or the Estima without paying thousands of dollars in conversions.
#2002 of 2021
Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [Tim_in_Japan] by yatesjo
Feb 20, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 20, 2009 1:23 am)

I grant you that Alphard is very lux. I can only guess at what it costs with that much kit. It does look big, especially so with the small wheels, but am curious to know how the interior volume competes with the current generation of the three major US market vans. It would need a lot of de-contenting for a base level model if it were to replace the current Sienna, otherwise it will be a Lexus selling to the mature audience rather than the family market that buys most of the minivans.
 
I'm not necessarily comparing the Mazda 5 to a Toyota directly, but if a market exists for the small minivan then the one company offering a vehicle in that class should do well. Witness Chrysler's intro of the first minivan- not a great quality product but it filled a niche and they owned the market for a long time. The Mazda 5 is not a poor quality vehicle and it is built by Mazda and only rebadged as a Ford in some international markets.
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Aerostar by ateixeira
Feb 23, 2009 (9:35 am)
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You don't see any resemblance?
 
Check out the A- and B-pillars specifically. It looks like a modern Aerostar would look. Almost exactly.
#2004 of 2021
Re: Aerostar [ateixeira] by yatesjo
Feb 23, 2009 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 23, 2009 9:35 am)

Wow. And I thought the Estima looked like the Dustbuster generation GMs. The resemblance of the Alphard to the Aerostar is amazing.
 
Come on Toyota. Look in better places for inspiration!
#2005 of 2021
You guys just dont get it... by Tim_in_Japan
Feb 24, 2009 (3:25 am)
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Well, I guess this is what makes America great. We can all agree to disagree. Trust me, if you were able to see the Estima or Alphard in person, you would never again think that a Ford looks anyting like a Toyota. Even if it did, the Toyota would still be better built that any Ford ever thought about being built.

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