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#1993 of 2021 Re: Redesigned Sienna [Tim_in_Japan] by eandlcubed Feb 10, 2009 (9:06 am)
Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 10, 2009 2:11 am) the reason is that the japanese minivan is smaller than what we americans want. the demise of the mazda mpv is a good example. it was the first to have roll down windows and slide-together seats (on the go too i might add) and slide forth and back seats too. it even has stow-in-the trunkt third row. it drives much nicer than the sienna and possible on par with the odyssey. however, it was too small so it dies but the japanese has just updated a really nice mazda mpv for its home market. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Feb 10, 2009 10:21 am)
#1994 of 2021 Re: Redesigned Sienna [eandlcubed] by ateixeira Feb 10, 2009 (10:21 am)
Replying to: eandlcubed (Feb 10, 2009 9:06 am) Very true, I'm sure the JDM vans cannot match the 148 cubic feet of cargo space.
#1995 of 2021 Re: Redesigned Sienna [Tim_in_Japan] by yatesjo Feb 10, 2009 (12:56 pm)
Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 10, 2009 2:11 am) Americans like Big. Japanese don't have the room for Big. The markets were big enough to support different models so the US got a big one. Gas prices looked like they were going to change American tastes but since the bottom fell out of oil with the rest of the economy I doubt Toyota wants to spend the money to certify a small JDM car with limited appeal in the US. I would also point out the the Sienna is 80% US sourced parts so they don't have nearly as much freight costs as shipping overseas.   I'm curious what specifically impressed you about the JDM vans versus the Sienna? Replies to this message: ateixeira (Feb 11, 2009 8:41 am)
#1996 of 2021 Re: Redesigned Sienna [yatesjo] by ateixeira Feb 11, 2009 (8:41 am)
Replying to: yatesjo (Feb 10, 2009 12:56 pm) The odds of a new small minivan being launched in the US are right about at zero.   Toyota brought the Venza instead, for instance.
#1997 of 2021 by decon Feb 16, 2009 (8:19 pm)
Wasn't this the photos for 2010?   http://jalopnik.com/5040658/2010-toyota-sienna-spotted-testing-in-desert-not-a-s- occer-game-in-sight   Is it true that the new model will be pushed back another year? I was waiting for the 2010 to decide whether to get that or 2009 model.
#1998 of 2021 I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... by Tim_in_Japan Feb 17, 2009 (2:46 am)
Take a look at what the Japanese get to buy. This is the Alphard. If it were to come to the US, they would most likely bring it as a Lexus. Toyota Alphard. Also take a look at the Estima. This too is far better than that the US market gets. Maybe if there is enough interest from the US market, Toyota will get the point and stop making the current Sienna and bring one of their own, home grown vans to the US. Toyota Estima Replies to this message: ateixeira (Feb 19, 2009 9:15 am) yatesjo (Feb 19, 2009 11:37 am) Tim_in_Japan (Feb 20, 2009 1:23 am) yatesjo (Feb 20, 2009 11:35 am)
#1999 of 2021 Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [Tim_in_Japan] by ateixeira Feb 19, 2009 (9:15 am)
Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 17, 2009 2:46 am) I don't really like that Alphard. Way too square. It looks like the old Ford Aerostar to me. And those wheels look tiny, what's up with that?   The Estima looks very modern (I like it) but I'm not sure the Jetsons look would do as well in the US.
#2000 of 2021 Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [Tim_in_Japan] by yatesjo Feb 19, 2009 (11:37 am)
Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 17, 2009 2:46 am) The Alphard is a pretty odd looking beast. The Estima hearkens back to the GM "dustbuster" style minivans from the early 90s... not a good thing in my opinion. The Sienna isn't pretty, but it is the least ugly of the three.   I'm skeptical that Toyota could support 2 minivans in the US market, and the Sienna size would sell more vans. If there really was a strong demand for smaller minivans the Mazda 5 should have a bigger market share. US Market minivans keep growing with each generation because that is the way most of us want them. Replies to this message: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 20, 2009 1:23 am) yatesjo (Feb 20, 2009 11:35 am)
#2001 of 2021 Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [yatesjo] by Tim_in_Japan Feb 20, 2009 (1:23 am)
Replying to: yatesjo (Feb 19, 2009 11:37 am) Well I guess everyone has their own opinion. Trust me, how could anyone compair a Ford to a Toyota. I have no idea what Mazda was thinking when they placed the Mazda 5 in the MPV's place. You should see the new one over here in Japan. Take a look at the interior snap shots of the Alphard.   Interior of Toyota Alphard   I drive a 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan, and this van is larger than mine. Also the Estima is just as large as my DGC, but 1000 percent nicer. The only reason I purchased the DGC was because I was coming back to the US three years ago, and you cannot bring over the Alphard or the Estima without paying thousands of dollars in conversions. Replies to this message: yatesjo (Feb 20, 2009 11:35 am)
#2002 of 2021 Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [Tim_in_Japan] by yatesjo Feb 20, 2009 (11:35 am)
Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 20, 2009 1:23 am) I grant you that Alphard is very lux. I can only guess at what it costs with that much kit. It does look big, especially so with the small wheels, but am curious to know how the interior volume competes with the current generation of the three major US market vans. It would need a lot of de-contenting for a base level model if it were to replace the current Sienna, otherwise it will be a Lexus selling to the mature audience rather than the family market that buys most of the minivans.   I'm not necessarily comparing the Mazda 5 to a Toyota directly, but if a market exists for the small minivan then the one company offering a vehicle in that class should do well. Witness Chrysler's intro of the first minivan- not a great quality product but it filled a niche and they owned the market for a long time. The Mazda 5 is not a poor quality vehicle and it is built by Mazda and only rebadged as a Ford in some international markets.

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