- #1991 of 2021
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Re: Redesigned Sienna [ateixeira]
by Tim_in_Japan
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Feb 10, 2009 (2:11 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 09, 2009 11:20 am)
FIrst I would like to say that I have enjoyed reading everyone thoughts about the Toyota Sienna. I have lived in Japan for almost 17 years (Navy) and have seen what the Japanese get to drive vs. what the US gets to drive. I have never really like the Sienna. I thougth its predecessor was a better van. If you could see one now, you would truely agree with me. Just google Toyota Estima. Or even Toyota Alphard. You will see both vans are truely superior to the Sienna. I have owned a DGC for three years. I love the 2005 body, but hate the new one. The only thing that I hate about my DGC, it its not a Toyota. The quality is shabby at bets, but it does offer the best options in the class. Toyota really needs to start sharing the welth, espically in this economy. Why design cars for different countries, when you could just sell the same ones in all of them. As an Americian living in Japan I would love to be able to bring an Estima or Alphard back to the US and be the envey of the entire neighborhood.
Tim in Japan
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- #1992 of 2021
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no new sienna this or next year
by eandlcubed
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Feb 10, 2009 (9:02 am)
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it was slated for this coming year as a 2010 model but it has been pushed back another year. if everything went according to plan, the newly redesigned model should be in production in 2010. rumor is no hybrid for the first year introduction but might appear in 2-3 years. a 4 cylinder is also possible.
to comment on previous post, the '04 model was touted as a 'lexus of minivan' and not 'a cadillac ...' by the press
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- #1993 of 2021
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Re: Redesigned Sienna [Tim_in_Japan]
by eandlcubed
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Feb 10, 2009 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 10, 2009 2:11 am)
the reason is that the japanese minivan is smaller than what we americans want. the demise of the mazda mpv is a good example. it was the first to have roll down windows and slide-together seats (on the go too i might add) and slide forth and back seats too. it even has stow-in-the trunkt third row. it drives much nicer than the sienna and possible on par with the odyssey. however, it was too small so it dies but the japanese has just updated a really nice mazda mpv for its home market.
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- #1994 of 2021
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Re: Redesigned Sienna [eandlcubed]
by ateixeira
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Feb 10, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: eandlcubed (Feb 10, 2009 9:06 am)
Very true, I'm sure the JDM vans cannot match the 148 cubic feet of cargo space.
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- #1995 of 2021
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Re: Redesigned Sienna [Tim_in_Japan]
by yatesjo
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Feb 10, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 10, 2009 2:11 am)
Americans like Big. Japanese don't have the room for Big. The markets were big enough to support different models so the US got a big one. Gas prices looked like they were going to change American tastes but since the bottom fell out of oil with the rest of the economy I doubt Toyota wants to spend the money to certify a small JDM car with limited appeal in the US. I would also point out the the Sienna is 80% US sourced parts so they don't have nearly as much freight costs as shipping overseas.
I'm curious what specifically impressed you about the JDM vans versus the Sienna?
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- #1996 of 2021
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Re: Redesigned Sienna [yatesjo]
by ateixeira
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Feb 11, 2009 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (Feb 10, 2009 12:56 pm)
The odds of a new small minivan being launched in the US are right about at zero.
Toyota brought the Venza instead, for instance.
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- #1997 of 2021
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by decon
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Feb 16, 2009 (8:19 pm)
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Wasn't this the photos for 2010?
http://jalopnik.com/5040658/2010-toyota-sienna-spotted-testing-in-desert-not-a-s- occer-game-in-sight
Is it true that the new model will be pushed back another year? I was waiting for the 2010 to decide whether to get that or 2009 model.
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- #1998 of 2021
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I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT...
by Tim_in_Japan
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Feb 17, 2009 (2:46 am)
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Take a look at what the Japanese get to buy. This is the Alphard. If it were to come to the US, they would most likely bring it as a Lexus. Toyota Alphard. Also take a look at the Estima. This too is far better than that the US market gets. Maybe if there is enough interest from the US market, Toyota will get the point and stop making the current Sienna and bring one of their own, home grown vans to the US. Toyota Estima
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- #1999 of 2021
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Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [Tim_in_Japan]
by ateixeira
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Feb 19, 2009 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 17, 2009 2:46 am)
I don't really like that Alphard. Way too square. It looks like the old Ford Aerostar to me. And those wheels look tiny, what's up with that?
The Estima looks very modern (I like it) but I'm not sure the Jetsons look would do as well in the US.
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- #2000 of 2021
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Re: I SAW THOSE RECENTLY, BUT... [Tim_in_Japan]
by yatesjo
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Feb 19, 2009 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 17, 2009 2:46 am)
The Alphard is a pretty odd looking beast. The Estima hearkens back to the GM "dustbuster" style minivans from the early 90s... not a good thing in my opinion. The Sienna isn't pretty, but it is the least ugly of the three.
I'm skeptical that Toyota could support 2 minivans in the US market, and the Sienna size would sell more vans. If there really was a strong demand for smaller minivans the Mazda 5 should have a bigger market share. US Market minivans keep growing with each generation because that is the way most of us want them.
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