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#1987 of 2021
Re: Hopes for the next Sienna... [samnoe] by mchinsky
Feb 08, 2009 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: samnoe (Dec 16, 2008 6:13 pm)

I have an 08 Limited and carefully researched the 08's chrysler before buying the Sienna.
 
You talk about all the "high points" of the Chrysler and on paper they sound great. But as you pointed out, in reality, its a piece of junk.
 
1) The interior fit/finish/build quality looks like it was done by the same people who design and build the junk toys they sell at wall mart. Reach under the seat to activate the tilt and prey you don't slit your hand on cheasy shart plastic
 
2) I've had lots of nav systems, both portable and integrated (including Lexus & Infiniti). Once you get used to it, the Toyota/Lexus is the quickest to use for everyday operations. I do agree the legal nanny's with the prevention of use while moving is very dumb. I'm in the tech industry and I couldn't figure out how to use even the most basic functions on the chrysler system. the screen was so crowded and relatively low resolution and crude graphics. The usable area to show the map was very small. In addition, the stereo itself sounded very weak compared to the toyota (although both were weak compared to my old IS250)
 
To put it simply, if I had to buy the chrysler, I would still have to go out and buy a portable GPS to have a usable solution. It's garbage.
 
3) The satelite tv is a gimick. 3 whopping channels at very low resolution.
 
4) The center console literally was wobbly. Again, shoddy interiors. Dashboard looked typical chrysler cheap. The only chrysler I''ve seen that has a half respectable interior is the now discontinued crossover stationwagon they had. can't think of the name.
 
5) The chrysler was noticeably smaller on the inside. Especially the rear storage area. The seats were way too close to the floor (the price of that so called wonderful underseat storage). That also meant headroom was less than the toyota when moving around.
 
6) I know its a matter of opinion but the chrysler is now one of the ugliest minivans. The last generation was much more attractive then these new box on wheels look..
 
7) The lighting is adequate. I've had LED lighting in the lexus, and yes it is nice. My real beef is that if somebody manually turns on an interior light and you leave the car, it stays on until the battery dies. There is no way from the front to shut off a light without shutting off all interior lighting. Very dumb.
 
That being said, the 2 of the 4 lights of the showroom chrylser I saw were lose. You had to jiggle them to get them on. Again, crap quality.
 
8) The AWD is great. you get suv security in the northeast with minivan practicality. Chrylser gave up on it to keep room for those supposedly great storage compartments.
 
What good is underseat storage if you can't get to where you need to in bad weather?
 
9) I will admit the digital hvac controls aren't that intuitive and its very difficult to control separate fan and temperature for the rear. They should do like lexus where the hvac is part of the all in one nav/radio system. I'm betting that will be the case for the next gen once they catch up.
#1988 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [jim1462] by ateixeira
Feb 09, 2009 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: jim1462 (Feb 07, 2009 11:40 am)

We should see one this calendar year. They had a concept a short while ago, but I wasn't crazy about it to be honest.
#1989 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [ateixeira] by timothyh
Feb 09, 2009 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 09, 2009 10:32 am)

What makes you think that its this year? I haven't seen any talk of test track drives, spy photos, etc.
#1990 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [timothyh] by ateixeira
Feb 09, 2009 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: timothyh (Feb 09, 2009 11:09 am)

True, but I didn't see the Venza up until it was shown in production form on the auto show circuit, either.
 
There's still the New York show in April, that is unless they postpone the intro by a year due to the economy.
#1991 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [ateixeira] by Tim_in_Japan
Feb 10, 2009 (2:11 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 09, 2009 11:20 am)

FIrst I would like to say that I have enjoyed reading everyone thoughts about the Toyota Sienna. I have lived in Japan for almost 17 years (Navy) and have seen what the Japanese get to drive vs. what the US gets to drive. I have never really like the Sienna. I thougth its predecessor was a better van. If you could see one now, you would truely agree with me. Just google Toyota Estima. Or even Toyota Alphard. You will see both vans are truely superior to the Sienna. I have owned a DGC for three years. I love the 2005 body, but hate the new one. The only thing that I hate about my DGC, it its not a Toyota. The quality is shabby at bets, but it does offer the best options in the class. Toyota really needs to start sharing the welth, espically in this economy. Why design cars for different countries, when you could just sell the same ones in all of them. As an Americian living in Japan I would love to be able to bring an Estima or Alphard back to the US and be the envey of the entire neighborhood.
 
Tim in Japan
#1992 of 2021
no new sienna this or next year by eandlcubed
Feb 10, 2009 (9:02 am)
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it was slated for this coming year as a 2010 model but it has been pushed back another year. if everything went according to plan, the newly redesigned model should be in production in 2010. rumor is no hybrid for the first year introduction but might appear in 2-3 years. a 4 cylinder is also possible.
 
to comment on previous post, the '04 model was touted as a 'lexus of minivan' and not 'a cadillac ...' by the press
#1993 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [Tim_in_Japan] by eandlcubed
Feb 10, 2009 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 10, 2009 2:11 am)

the reason is that the japanese minivan is smaller than what we americans want. the demise of the mazda mpv is a good example. it was the first to have roll down windows and slide-together seats (on the go too i might add) and slide forth and back seats too. it even has stow-in-the trunkt third row. it drives much nicer than the sienna and possible on par with the odyssey. however, it was too small so it dies but the japanese has just updated a really nice mazda mpv for its home market.
#1994 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [eandlcubed] by ateixeira
Feb 10, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: eandlcubed (Feb 10, 2009 9:06 am)

Very true, I'm sure the JDM vans cannot match the 148 cubic feet of cargo space.
#1995 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [Tim_in_Japan] by yatesjo
Feb 10, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: Tim_in_Japan (Feb 10, 2009 2:11 am)

Americans like Big. Japanese don't have the room for Big. The markets were big enough to support different models so the US got a big one. Gas prices looked like they were going to change American tastes but since the bottom fell out of oil with the rest of the economy I doubt Toyota wants to spend the money to certify a small JDM car with limited appeal in the US. I would also point out the the Sienna is 80% US sourced parts so they don't have nearly as much freight costs as shipping overseas.
 
I'm curious what specifically impressed you about the JDM vans versus the Sienna?
#1996 of 2021
Re: Redesigned Sienna [yatesjo] by ateixeira
Feb 11, 2009 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (Feb 10, 2009 12:56 pm)

The odds of a new small minivan being launched in the US are right about at zero.
 
Toyota brought the Venza instead, for instance.

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