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Toyota Sienna, Van
#1599 of 2021 Toyota and Value
Mar 05, 2003 (11:12 am)
I am a five time Toyota owner - a 1986 Camry (bought used), a 1992 Corolla DX, a 1994 Tercel DX(for the wife), a 1998 Sienna XLE and a 2001 Camry LE, and I can state with equivication that no matter which version you get, you can get a good value. My 1992 Corolla was a great little car, it cost under $9k, I used it for almost 10 years, over 120k miles and sold it for $3500. I see the car at the train station every day and the new owner still waves at me and smiles....
The Tercel was terribly underpowered but what did we expect for the amount we paid for it - less even than the Corolla and we still got back $5000 when we traded it in for the Sienna.
The Sienna has been a great bus for the family, although I have always found the rear storage area to be too small - it looks like this was fixed in 2004. It is comfortable in every seat and easy to drive. We bought it for well under MSRP (over 2k less) in Hillside, NJ even though it was a new model. We picked one of the vans that was "on the lot" two days after Xmas and right before the new year - I had the choice between the one we got with cloth and no moonroof and a Maroon one with leather and a moonroof (oohs and ahhs) and picked the lower priced one, but have always felt that we got a great deal and have never regretted it. I am somewhat envious of my sister-in-law's 2001 Sienna with JBL speakers, moonroof, video screen and leather, but never thought it was worth the extra money that they paid, although the engine has always seemed a little stronger and the transmission smoother.
We are ready for the 2004 but I refuse to pay MSRP. I have no problem going to the 6+ dealers in central NJ and saying - this is what I am paying over invoice, and I will buy from the first dealer that gives me that deal minus the KBB value on the trade in. Eventually when the avid customers stop calling and they have a car on the lot they will give me a call - it has always happened that way, and it really works, at least where there is competition.
Anyways - my family spends a lot of time in the Sienna and therefore, it is not "just a minivan" -it is a place where my family spends a lot of time in, and should be comfortable, reliable and safe for that reason alone.
Mar 05, 2003 (11:13 am)
You have to remember you have a van vs. SUV there. Also the Pilot will have a little different ride vs. the van. So you really need to look at price then. Both vehicles will sell for sticker. So it shoule be an equal playing field on price and dealing.
Have fun, both are outstanding vehicles and you can't go wrong with either one.
Mar 05, 2003 (11:34 am)
You said that a "decently equipped LE with dual sliders and VSC" is reasonably priced at $27K. From what I have seen, the 04 LE options packages only has 1 power sliding door.
I thought you had to upgrade to a XLE to get dual power sliders. I know the 03 had dual power sliders for LE, but I didn't see it on the 04 options. Can you point out where you saw the dual power slider option on the LE? Thanks.
#1602 of 2021 Residuals-SteveB
Mar 05, 2003 (2:20 pm)
Thanks for the info on the residuals-Is that pricing guide that you gave on base or with options mentioned.
Mar 05, 2003 (2:37 pm)
Someone has to know if we can look at this car now or if we have to wait until the 15th...
#1604 of 2021 hether - residuals
Mar 05, 2003 (3:16 pm)
The ones I posted are Toyota Financial residuals for a 5346 XLE with FE & GJ.
Toyota uses the base MSRP then adds set amounts for each additional option package.
#1605 of 2021 Overtime1 - Arrival dates
Mar 05, 2003 (3:18 pm)
Every dealer in the country is supposed to have at least one 2004 Sienna on March 14th. I wouldn't be surprised if a few show up on the 13th. But they are embargoed from being delivered to dealer until the 14th.
Your best bet is to surf here and elsewhere on the net to see what you can find. Several reviews have already been published and they are very positive.
Mar 05, 2003 (3:23 pm)
The info is appreciated. My wife and I will investigate .
Mar 05, 2003 (5:36 pm)
Live in Southern Indiana 15 miles from the plant, saw one this last saturday on the road beside the Toyota dealer, and on on US 41 driven by engineers tooling around and going back to the plant.
Mar 05, 2003 (7:22 pm)
I like what you are writing about Toyotas (I have always hankered for one but thought they were too expensive to buy and maintain)but want one car to go for 10 years, I'm tired of putting new transmissions in my Chryslers (one Voyager, two GrandVs, three transmissions)although I have loved my living room on wheels. I have no image issues, SUVs do not tempt me, I don't think minivans look like boxes on wheels but comfort for my WHOLE family and safety for my WHOLE family really do come first. We LIVE in our vans, we live in the country and drive a lot. Sometimes the inside of the van looks like we have no other home :o}
I really have a tight budget and I really want this van. I want an LE with the BW package. Do you think the Kelley's invoice prices are more accurate than the ones that are posted elsewhere on the Internet? I have researched on the net and driven everything out there and this van has all the features that I could have chosen off other vans, and it is a Toyota, and the prices are reasonable, and articles say that Toyota wants to get van marketshare back so wants to get a lot of these on the road. (The only thing not perfect is I want the package BW but without the one sliding door. They seem like something for lazy people, another gadget to break, etc. Just my opinion, no experience with a slider, so I am uninformed.)
I live between Fredericksburg and Richmond, Virginia so have lots of dealers to tap onto. I want to make an offer like the one you plan to. I just put a new trans in my '95 , so I have no immediate need for a new car, and would probably freak out the first time sand or chlorine got in my new vehicle, so I have no problem waiting till fall if the price is right. Do you mind sharing how much over invoice you feel is fair to offer? Is is reasonable to go to dealers and offer $200 over invoice, offer to take the van whenever they chose to order it (say by Sept. hopefully) thinking they can put in my order to make any month's quota they want look good, I can pay cash, they will have a guaranteed sale? Should I throw in the trade at KBB as a neccessary? I don't mind selling it myself to make a little more $$. I just cannot manage the thought of paying MSRP for anything. Am I dreaming?
Thanks for any advice you can give me!