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You are in the Toyota Sienna
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Toyota Sienna, Van
#1018 of 2021 On the other hand....
Feb 05, 2003 (2:01 pm)
Toyota pricing of the exciting 2004 Sienna CE is very aggressive (appears to be $1000 LESS than the 2003 Sienna CE). Maybe Toyota is VERY serious about "Camry status" (BEST selling vehicle) for the Sienna after being a has-been in minivans for too many years.
.....Now, let us just hope Toyota dealers do not get smug, greedy, and apathetic as Honda did with the HOT 1999 Odyssey. I still won't consider an Odyssey because of the rude, arrogant Honda salesmen and their GREEDY dealerships.
#1019 of 2021 New Topic Suggestions?
Feb 05, 2003 (3:28 pm)
Didn't realize there's a competition to have a bragging rights of who paid the lowest price for the 04 Sienna per the previous post.
So should we start a new topic called "Can you beat my price on the 04 Sienna"?
As by definition I would think this discussion board will need to migrate over to something else as the "future Sienna" will become the "present Sienna" in 2 months.
Personally, I'd like to see "How much are you hoping/willing to pay for your 04 Sienna"? It'd be something like "Dear Santa, I'm hoping to get a 04 Sienna XLE with the following options, in Silver or Sand color, and hoping to pay only $X over invoice with expected delivery by July."
Any other ideas for new topics as we wait for the prices?
Feb 05, 2003 (4:44 pm)
GM, Ford, and to a lesser extent Chrysler, can't stay alive in the market with only incentives. It always comes back to whoever has the best product with a reasonable price. Incentives can't take the place for quality and reliability.
#1022 of 2021 What will I pay?
Feb 05, 2003 (6:07 pm)
I bought my 98 Sienna from a fabulous Honda dealer here in St. Louis and I've never regretted it. Looking at the specs of the 2004 I will be very happy to pay >24k for a CE. It's better equipped than a 2003 LE that goes for about the same price with rebates. I am the thriftiest person I know (CHEAP). I don't expect demand to be high here, foreign cars are still frowned upon in this part of the world!
#1023 of 2021 Just a mini-van
Feb 05, 2003 (7:16 pm)
Hey guys, remember these are not beenie babies, tech stocks, or teddy ruckspin, just mini-vans.
The base for the CE, I'd be surprised if they actually get that low without add on's.
But lets not get too upset, its just a mini-van.
#1024 of 2021 Pricing vs. domestics
Feb 05, 2003 (9:05 pm)
All I'll say is that Toyota buyers don't typically shop domestics in their decision making. I'm not saying that they never do, just it is not as often as many would think. Out of every 10 customers that I work with, maybe 1 or 2 say that if they're looking at other vehicles, they're looking at a domestic model. 9 out of 10 say that they are either looking at another Toyota, Lexus, or Honda as an alternative.
It is sort of like when people are buying hamburgers. If someone is looking for the best price, not necessarily the best quality, they go to McD&*(*&d's $1 menu or Burger Prince as the alternative (Ford, GM, DC). If they're looking for a great meal, they go to a 4-star restaurant. You don't have too many people comparing the hamburgers at one joint to the prime-rib at the restaurant. Now again, I'm not saying that the difference between the domestic offerings are that great of a difference in comparison to Toyota, but Honda and Toyota will never win a price-point war especially with the HUGE rebates and 0% financing for 30-some-odd years(exageration) on domestics.
What Honda and Toyota do well is make VERY high quality products with HIGH resale values and with low probability of problems in the long run. If you want something that you can lease for 24months and turn it in on another vehicle, Honda and Toyota may never be the vehicle that fits your needs.
Just my $.02
Feb 06, 2003 (7:20 am)
No offense, but your last remark is kinda of arrogant. Yes your product is very good, but since the Japanese recession, Toyota is not over engineering the cars like they used to. Same with mercedes. This is to keep the prices down.
Its easy to get complacent and rest on your laurals while still on top, but the enemy has nothing to lose at that moment and throws assets to remedy and mount the next attact. We are not talking about the 1980s anymore.
I have not bought a domestic since 1982 (a great Camaro, but I am considering a Pacifica now, and would look at the cts caddy if I were in the market for myself. I think Lutz at GM will make strides with appeal for models in the coming years. So much domestic design and content in the American made Toyotas. They are not as good as they were a few years ago. IMHO.
#1027 of 2021 email I got from a dealer
Feb 06, 2003 (11:17 am)
I contacted a dealer who's name was mentioned here a sometime ago. He emailed back today and had this to say:
"We do not have any solid pricing on the new Sienna yet. We expect it to be more expensive than the current Siennas because of the increased interior size, standard equipment and the new 3.3 V6 that will be 240hp."
I'll leave judgement to you but maybe this guy should read his companies own press releases.