Are new Subarus really as bad as I am hearing? - READ ONLY

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#87 of 116 by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jun 12, 2002 (11:25 am)

WRX is what I'm talking about, as this is the Subaru most people are talking about on this board. So a couple of years for Consumer Reports to collect data, maybe a few Long Term Reports from auto magazines, and a good longterm reliability score from JD Powers, is what I personally require to declare a car "exceptionally good". I've seen too many cars go sour to automatically embrace the early rave reviews. Call me a skeptic, that's how I think anyway.
 

#88 of 116 Like I said by paisan

Jun 12, 2002 (11:56 am)

The WRX engine is OLD nothing new about it at all. It hasn't changed since about 97ish maybe even earlier.
 
-mike

#89 of 116 WRX not really "new" by stoner420

Jun 12, 2002 (12:40 pm)

Though the 2002 US model obviously is a fairly substantial overhaul from older/foreign-market Imprezas, it's really only "new" to the US and has existed for several years in other markets. See http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm for "The Subaru Impreza FAQ" (last updated Feb. 12, 2000 even!)

Even the controversial ABS issue does not really seem to be new with the 2002 model: http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm#3.12

#90 of 116 Re: Good deal in the Rockies . . . by rexaroo

Jun 12, 2002 (12:47 pm)

fleetwoodsimca--from our experience the Rocky Mtn. dealers won't budge much on the price if they have a hot seller, which the new Forester looks to be. You might try talking to Dave Owen at Burt Subaru, 303-761-7453. They are pretty good over-all and #1 in customer satisfaction here in Denver.
 
When we shopped for our WRX last July, nobody in the region would give us even a nickel off on the car, and we ended up buying for $500 over invoice from Roper Subaru in Joplin, Mo. Not as bad as it sounds because these are great people to work with and will ship the car free of charge to a convenient spot in Kansas for you to pick up. Then you have an easy hwy drive home on I-70 for a beautiful break-in on the engine (vary your speed 50-80 and don't use the cruise control.) If you want to go that route, talk to Jeremy Strup at 1-800-743-0311 Ext. 5567. He gave us a fantastic deal when nobody else would, and I know he'll make you happy on your Forester.
 
--rexaroo

#91 of 116 by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jun 12, 2002 (3:50 pm)

WRX is new to this country with all US engine, chassis, safety standards in place, so it's a fairly new package here. Old WRX goes way back in Japan, maybe ten years.

#92 of 116 Forget the WRX by rsholland

Jun 12, 2002 (6:00 pm)

The original poster was (I'm assuming) asking about mainstream Subarus. I wouldn't build a brands reputation on just one model, like the WRX. Subaru has an excellent track record with "normal" cars, in terms of reliability.
 
Bob

#93 of 116 Re: WRX build quality by rexaroo

Jun 12, 2002 (6:08 pm)

Shiftright's post #44: Pretty funny about wanting to rip off "the flimsy hood". Actually, it's aluminum alloy to save weight and a rather exotic feature to have in this price range. Doing away with the hood scoop won't work--it's essential for getting 227 hp out of a two liter engine--you need that extra air for the intercooler. I agree about the brakes, though, and think a 4-piston Brembo upgrade at some point is a good investment.
For the money, the WRX is hard to beat. In almost 1 year and 7000 mi., we've had only two minor problems--road grit that got into the spring beds after a rainstorm and had to be cleaned out and lubed, and a check engine light that came on after buying some off-brand gas (it later went off after 1 1/2 tanks of Premium Amoco.) Not bad for a car in its 1st year of production.

#94 of 116 rexaroo by fleetwoodsimca

Jun 12, 2002 (6:48 pm)

Many thanks for the tip. I could get to Burt in Denver during a day trip. I wouldn't mind dragging a rider/driver with me to Joplin, for that matter, but the deal would need to be REAL tight! >:oÞ

#95 of 116 US spec engine by paisan

Jun 12, 2002 (8:51 pm)

Is the same as outside the US, same goes for the chassis etc. I have no idea what Shiftright is talking about.
 
-mike

#96 of 116 Outback stalling/hesitating by pgh4

Jun 13, 2002 (6:33 am)

Our 2000 Outback (perfect until now) is experincing hesitation, stalling, bucking, in slow moving traffic. Yesterday, started to buck slightly at hgwy speed. Problem is sporadic but getting worse. Can make for dangerous situations.
Dealer could not duplicate last week and no bad codes given on computer. Already tried different gas, different octane lvls etc. Read a Subie owner website yeserday and apparently I'm not the only one. Going back to dealer next week. I suggested a new fuel filter, and service mgr said nahhh...it's not that. Any thoughts or similar experiences..?

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