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#9170 of 13263 Re: PLEASE HELP DECIDE: 2009 vs 2010 MDX [tastycakes55]
Dec 01, 2009 (10:31 am)
Tastycaskes, I need to make a decision today. Here is some more feedback for you:
- Regarding Price: My dealer won't move on the price of the 2009. He showed me his invoice and swears he's making the bare minimum on this deal. As far as accessories goes, I tried to have him throw something in, but the best he can do is charge me his "cost." $650 for the running boards and $550 for the remote start.
- I agree that the 2010 base vs 2009 base is a better value, but don't be fooled, the price for these trims is built-in to the base price of the 2010 MDX models, with an MSRP at approximately $1000 higher than 2009 - there really isn't a free lunch here.
- As far as Acura's claim to bump up the MPG on the 2010 models, I wouldn't bet the rent on it. This is pure speculation and if you look into the 2007-2008 MDX MPG, at one point they had claimed to have 17 MPG and were later forced to correct this down to 16 MPG for the 2009 model. Basically, to really see if the MPG has improved the cars have to hit the road and I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't changed.
- Finally regarding transmission and warranty, I agree, I would get this on either car since I plan to own it for 5 + years. But, regardless of the warranty, who wants to go back to the shop on a recall? I am sure the new 6-speed transmission on the 2010 is perfect, but again if you do some research, you will see that when Acura went from 4 speed to 5 speed on the TL's in 2001/02, it wasn't a flawless transition with about 10% of the cars having problems.
In any case, back to my question, (now that you have my dealer's feedback on price):
Would you go for:
A. 2009 MDX with Tech for $39.735 at 3% financing
B. 2010 with Tech for $44-45,000 at 4-5% financing
C. 2010 base for $40-41,000 at 4.5% financing
Any advance is welcome.
#9171 of 13263 Re: Base MDX [tastycakes55]
Dec 01, 2009 (10:38 am)
tastycakes55-- Congrats on your purchase. Can you email me the contat information carbok1aol.com.
Thank you and congratulations again.
#9172 of 13263 Re: PLEASE HELP DECIDE: 2009 vs 2010 MDX [darkenergy]
Dec 01, 2009 (12:10 pm)
Take this FWIW. I could be wrong, but I suspect I am correct.
Every dealer I spoke with after I had my deal in hand told me that the deal I had arranged was impossible, fake, a trick to get me in and then upsell me on some gimmick or accessories, etc etc etc. Even the dealer I got the deal from told me to take a hike at first and all but screamed obscenities.
So if you have time and some flexibility, I'd take a gamble on the 09. Knowing you'd be happy at higher prices for a 2010 tech or base, you can be more aggressive on pushing for better pricing on the 2009. Also, they want to clear out inventory as much as you want to buy it. So relax and enjoy the negotiation.
Also, keep in mind it's now december. There may no longer be some dealer kickbacks/bonuses or there may be new ones. It's a new ballgame.
With that in mind, not knowing where you live, I would do 1 of 2 things, depending on how much time you have.
Ideally, you should drive to the dealership ready to buy, and offer them $37500 + TTL to sign the papers and complete the transaction, and that's your final offer. If he can't do that, tell him you are going to wait for the 2010s and let him know you'll be doing the dealer roulette to get the best deal on a 2010 model even though it will be more expensive, so he may lose a deal regardless. If you can't go to the dealership or don't want to, I would call (but not email).
He will tell you that $37500 is impossible, blah blah blah, inventory is low, breaking my back, goodbye and call me in a few weeks if you want a 2010.
Relax and sit back. Within 48-72 hours you will get a call or email back with a better deal than $39735. I would guess close to $38-38.5k.
If not, wait for the 2010s.
#9173 of 13263 Re: Base MDX [carbok]
Dec 01, 2009 (12:10 pm)
I was just told by the dealer that prices went up 1500 since yesterday because they lost their incentives. Anyone else seeing this?
#9174 of 13263 Re: Base MDX [tastycakes55]
Dec 01, 2009 (1:34 pm)
First, they dont make a MDX White with a Black interior. Unless you bought a RDX.
Second, I dont believe the Cash price at all, Unless you bought a RDX
Last, I wish people would post the bill of sale to prove what crazy prices they claim.
I am the autochallenger and I challenge this post.
#9175 of 13263 Re: Base MDX [autochallenger]
Dec 01, 2009 (2:49 pm)
Good catch on the color combo. I figured he had bought a dealer demo, but if they don't even make that color combo, it makes you wonder...
#9176 of 13263 Re: Base MDX [carbok]
Dec 01, 2009 (3:34 pm)
Earlier in the month, our dealer had said that they were losing a ~$1k incentive at the end of the month, so that they would be losing that factor in price negotiation for December. My guess is that dealerships will probably want to keep some inventory of 2009s since they will be easier to sell once 2010s are on the lot. Why? Arrival of new models brings in traffic, and the price/negotiability of the 2009s (relative to 2010s) will be a good thing to have at that point.
The other factor that may increase the relative desirability of the 2009s is the cartoon-like beak / smiley grill on the 2010s. It makes the 2009 model look more serious and refined to many, and that subjectivity could be a factor. Mazda seems to have done something similar with the front end of their 2010 CX-9 (and other models), which is designed around a smiley face not present in past model years. Automakers gravitate towards positive and happy (borderline goofy in Mazda's case) design details in times of recession. Some buyers are drawn towards the serious/aggressive look of the MDX, and those buyers may not be as drawn to the 2010s. On the other hand, the MDX also has a strong following in the kid-mobile/family and soccer mom audience, and the friendly smile beak on the 2010s may be a strong draw to that audience. The point is that when it comes to changes in subjective design details like this, the dealer may benefit by holding on to more options.
#9177 of 13263 Re: Base MDX [carbok]
Dec 02, 2009 (8:53 am)
I dealer told me yesterday that I was late by 1 day & that some of the incentives expired in Nov. I'm curious to find out how the picture on incentives changed in Dec. Is Acura likely to introduce some new incentives to replace that have expired? Any thoughts on this on the board?
P.S.: I recently switched from shopping for preowned MDX's to new 09's. Prices on preowned 07s and 08s are lofty and not much lower than new 09s. Hoping I'm not too late to getting a good deal (ala tastycakes and lexluthor)
#9178 of 13263 Bought mine last weekend.
Dec 02, 2009 (9:35 am)
After following this thread to get some idea, I finally purchased the 2009 MDX Base Model for $36.9k + TTL = $39.5k Total. This include options such as body side mold, front side window tint, all season mats, and wheel locks.
Had to pull the trigger since there were only 3 left in the color combo we want from 2 dealers. May not be as good as the deals of $34.5k posted by some member, but like the poster above, you have to take it with a grain of salt. Maybe it's possible earlier in the year, but this late with depleting stock, it makes it harder to find that deal.
I'm happy with my purchase. Now off to buy some OEM sport running boards. Btw, you can find them on ebay around $425 or less.
#9179 of 13263 Re: 2009 Acura MDX based model in MA [cegledi]
Dec 02, 2009 (2:26 pm)
Closed my deal before the long weekend. 36,200 for base model with all season mats thrown into that deal.
Final cost 36200+Tax+Title+Reg+Documentation fee = 38600
Luv the drive so far. Good luck to others buying.