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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [khajokh] by lexluthor
Nov 08, 2009 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: khajokh (Nov 08, 2009 1:52 pm)

Where are you getting the $8500 in incentives number from? How accurate is that really?
 
I don't think it is. The NY/NJ dealers wouldn't budge much below $36K for the MDX base, so no way they have a cost of anywhere near $33,300.
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [lexluthor] by khajokh
Nov 08, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: lexluthor (Nov 08, 2009 2:13 pm)

Lex,
>> Where are you getting the $8500 in incentives number from? How accurate is that really?
 
It is from
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/what-theyre-offering/article1351166/
 
I would tend to give a published independent source more credibility than any statement from any dealer.
 
I am assuming the incentive should be marked off from MSRP. I remember reading here that the Pohanka dealer gave the MDX base for 34k/-. The markup of 700/- is quite reasonable.
 
Anything over 34.5k/- for base is overpaying the dealer.
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your likely going to pay sticker by cashcars
Nov 08, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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think about it... your the dealer and you have only so many of the highest in demand mid-sived SUVs. Everyone that comes in to buy has great credit and wants a deal. Wait....people keep comeing in w/ great credit, forget giving them a deal! Keep your inventory for the profit! You'll have to basically buy the new car manger a steak dinner and promise him you'll always use his service department to get discount. and good luck trying to find a used one...........just pony up!
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [khajokh] by nbcars
Nov 08, 2009 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: khajokh (Nov 08, 2009 1:52 pm)

That is a very detail summary. It seems that it is a good deal if I can get 34000 for a base model or 38000 for a tech model. I searched online. There are more base models in stock compared with tech models. It is easier to get the price down for the base model.
 
Nobody can predict what happened next year. My friend got 08 sports model last year for only 37000.
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [lexluthor] by suharsh
Nov 08, 2009 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: lexluthor (Nov 08, 2009 11:49 am)

Lex,
 
Below is verbatim from another auto site and also has a link to details from the horse's mouth - IRS!
 
I believe I have understood it correctly, if not don't hesitate to correct me.
 
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The recently passed American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 gives new car buyers a boost — an income tax deduction for state excise and sales taxes on the vehicle purchase. There are taxpayer income and vehicle price limits, but many buyers will be eligible for this benefit. According to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), here are some of the basics:
 
The vehicle must be purchased after February 16, 2009, and before January 1, 2010.
 
The deduction is limited to the tax on up to $49,500 of the purchase price for an eligible vehicle.
 
The deduction is phased out for individuals with adjusted gross income above $125,000 and for joint filers with adjusted gross income above $250,000.
 
The deduction is available only for new cars weighing 8,500 pounds or less.
 
The tax deduction is available to taxpayers who do not itemize as well as to those who do.
 
An Example
For the purchase of a $30,000 vehicle with 7% state sales tax, the taxpayer would receive a $2,100 tax deduction. The actual tax savings depends on the amount of sales and excise tax paid in your state and on your tax rate. Ask your dealer about your state's tax rates.
 
Your tax break is in addition to any incentives or rebates offered by the dealer and manufacturer. Check out dealer specials in your area.
 
For more detailed information on these tax benefits, visit http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204519,00.html.
 
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [khajokh] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 08, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: khajokh (Nov 08, 2009 2:22 pm)

Those incentives are for Canada, right?
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [kyfdx] by suharsh
Nov 08, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 08, 2009 7:22 pm)

No sir, US. Don't know if there are any such breaks for Canada.
 
I am sorry if I gave an incorrect impression. I didn't realize that there were some members from Canada.
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [khajokh] by longhorn11
Nov 08, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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Replying to: khajokh (Nov 08, 2009 11:18 am)

38.7 definitely is good. The dealer in my area gave 40,088 saying it included lifetime oil change for $100 and lifetime nitrogen for the tires at the same price but refused to budge below the price. Seemed like the dealer wasn't worried about selling the rest of the 09 since there were like 5 left on the lot. Just worried that when the 2010 model comes out it'll be awhile before the dealers are willing to budge on the price.
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rebate by vchad
Nov 08, 2009 (8:06 pm)
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Folks, the link to which the poster has, for the $8000 rebate. IS FOR CANADA only. does NOT apply to usa.
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/what-theyre-offering/article1351166/
 
it says....RIGHT AT THE TOP of the website....for canada customers.
 
Deals
What they're offering
Here is a look at recent incentives offered by manufacturers in Canada. All offers are subject to change and often do so frequently and without warning. The deals listed here were ‘live' through last weekend.
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Re: rebate [vchad] by khajokh
Nov 08, 2009 (10:53 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Nov 08, 2009 8:06 pm)

Vchad,
 
Honda "manufactures" Acura MDX in one place called Alliston, Canada (and as-of-now nowhere else - even though there is some discussion of moving MDX production to a plant in Alabama to ramp up for more Civic sedans in Canada)
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_MDX
 
Let us not confuse 'manufacturing" from "selling". The article from GlobeandMail refers to manufacturers in Canada - not where those cars are sold.
 
Again, not being associated with either car manufacturers or dealers, I have no way of knowing whether this incentive is true or not. But the numbers that one derives, after assuming that these incentives exist, are very, very close to the deals a select few dealers are willing to provide.
 
This, in itself, should raise the question - why is a dealer in Pohanka, VA willing to sell MDX base for 34k where as a dealer in NY/NJ would not go down below 36k? Where I live (about 1500 miles from Pohanka ), the lowest base MDX quote is over 36.5k.
 
I have no other motivation other than to research, educate myself and get the best deal. I simply cannot understand why I have to pay 2-3k more than what others are paying for the same commoditized product to which dealers add-on very little value. If others have more access to information on true incentives/better deal structuring, please do post.
 
From my anecdotal research, it appears that there are a lot more buyers of Acura MDX if the dealers are willing to pass on the manufacturers incentives to buyers - not just keep them for their profits. Acura sales may not be suffering due to a lack of buyers, but more because of their dealer network pricing structures.
 
Given the current incentives, here are what I believe are the reasonable prices one should aim for -
Base - 34k-35k
Sports/Ent - 42k-43k
Sports - 40k-41k
Tech - 38k-39k
Tech/Ent - 40k-41k
 
Anything over this will be an additional dealer markup. I am not making any buy/don't buy recommendations - I understand that is a personal decision based on many other factors. But let us correctly educate ourselves on what are the true cost/pricing structures and know what we are giving/gaining when we make these big transactions.

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