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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [suharsh] by khajokh
Nov 08, 2009 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: suharsh (Nov 08, 2009 10:33 am)

I agree with Suharsh that it depends on your need and time you have to invest in search/wait for best deal. If you are like me who can afford to wait and get a good deal, then 2010 may be the better option.
 
Acura will discount the 2010 models - their sales are nowhere near where Acura would like them to be. Also, RX 350 is eating Acura MDX lunch if you look at the sales numbers.
 
Don't get me wrong - I love Acura MDX, but I refuse to pay this high a markup for the dealers who essentially are doing very little 'add-on' services especially for new cars. These cars will sell by themselves if they price it right. I will certainly wait for 2010 to see what they offer.
 
Here is one more article that gives an idea of the kind of incentives dealers are getting (and refusing to pass on to buyers)
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/what-theyre-offering/article1351166/
 
Suharsh, your 38.7k deal is actually not bad. Where I live, the dealers politely show you the door for any asking price less than 40k for tech even without any freebies.
 
If there are more dealers like the Pohanka, VA dealer who dealt straight, there will be many more buyers.
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [suharsh] by lexluthor
Nov 08, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: suharsh (Nov 08, 2009 10:33 am)

suharsh,
 
What's this stimulus new vehicle tax break you speak of?
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [khajokh] by nbcars
Nov 08, 2009 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: khajokh (Nov 08, 2009 11:18 am)

Those are very good comments. I read the artical you recommend. For 2009 MDX, there are 8500 incentives. is it from MSRP or invoice price?
 
For base model, 34000+TTL is already 3000 below invoice price and almost 8000 below MSRP.
 
When is the good time to buy a 2010 MDX?
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [nbcars] by khajokh
Nov 08, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: nbcars (Nov 08, 2009 12:36 pm)

Assuming incentives are from MSRP, here are my calculations for dealer per car cost. I have used msrp and dealer invoice from -
 
http://www.autobuyguide.com/2009/12-aut/acura/mdx/pricing/index.html
 
2009 Acura MDX Base
$40,990.00 (MSRP) - 8500/- incentives + 810/-(Destination) = 33300/- dealer cost
(invoice = 37252/-)
  
2009 Acura MDX Sport and Entertainment
$48,890.00 - 8500/- incentives + 810/-(Destination) = 41200/- dealer cost
(Invoice quoted = $44,415.00 )
  
2009 Acura MDX Sport Pkg
$47,140.00 - 8500/- incentives + 810/-(Destination) = 39450/- (dealer cost)
 (Invoice quoted - $42,829/-)
 
2009 Acura MDX Technology and Entertainment
$46,790.00 - 8500/- incentives + 810/-(Destination) = 39100/-
 dealer cost
 (Invoice quoted $42,511/-)
 
2009 Acura MDX Technology Pkg
$45,040.00 - 8500/- incentives + 810/-(Destination) = 37350
Invoice quoted - $40,924)
 
It shows that dealer invoice is useless b***s***. I am willing to pay a markup of 1000/- per car more than the above dealer cost for dealers to stay in business and cover other costs. But any markup more than that (per car) is difficult to justify.
 
Regarding when to buy 2010, it is hard to tell right now since 2010 MDXs are so late and have been pushed out to likely next year. Perhaps 1-2 months after the release may be a good time. A month end/quarter end always is a good time.
 
My local dealer recently told me that 2010 MDX will be in by end of November (as a part of his sales pitch of 'buy now or you may regret'). I pointed out that I have read on the web that release date is likely next year, and he backed off.
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [khajokh] by lexluthor
Nov 08, 2009 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: khajokh (Nov 08, 2009 1:52 pm)

Where are you getting the $8500 in incentives number from? How accurate is that really?
 
I don't think it is. The NY/NJ dealers wouldn't budge much below $36K for the MDX base, so no way they have a cost of anywhere near $33,300.
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [lexluthor] by khajokh
Nov 08, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: lexluthor (Nov 08, 2009 2:13 pm)

Lex,
>> Where are you getting the $8500 in incentives number from? How accurate is that really?
 
It is from
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/what-theyre-offering/article1351166/
 
I would tend to give a published independent source more credibility than any statement from any dealer.
 
I am assuming the incentive should be marked off from MSRP. I remember reading here that the Pohanka dealer gave the MDX base for 34k/-. The markup of 700/- is quite reasonable.
 
Anything over 34.5k/- for base is overpaying the dealer.
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your likely going to pay sticker by cashcars
Nov 08, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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think about it... your the dealer and you have only so many of the highest in demand mid-sived SUVs. Everyone that comes in to buy has great credit and wants a deal. Wait....people keep comeing in w/ great credit, forget giving them a deal! Keep your inventory for the profit! You'll have to basically buy the new car manger a steak dinner and promise him you'll always use his service department to get discount. and good luck trying to find a used one...........just pony up!
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [khajokh] by nbcars
Nov 08, 2009 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: khajokh (Nov 08, 2009 1:52 pm)

That is a very detail summary. It seems that it is a good deal if I can get 34000 for a base model or 38000 for a tech model. I searched online. There are more base models in stock compared with tech models. It is easier to get the price down for the base model.
 
Nobody can predict what happened next year. My friend got 08 sports model last year for only 37000.
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [lexluthor] by suharsh
Nov 08, 2009 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: lexluthor (Nov 08, 2009 11:49 am)

Lex,
 
Below is verbatim from another auto site and also has a link to details from the horse's mouth - IRS!
 
I believe I have understood it correctly, if not don't hesitate to correct me.
 
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The recently passed American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 gives new car buyers a boost — an income tax deduction for state excise and sales taxes on the vehicle purchase. There are taxpayer income and vehicle price limits, but many buyers will be eligible for this benefit. According to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), here are some of the basics:
 
The vehicle must be purchased after February 16, 2009, and before January 1, 2010.
 
The deduction is limited to the tax on up to $49,500 of the purchase price for an eligible vehicle.
 
The deduction is phased out for individuals with adjusted gross income above $125,000 and for joint filers with adjusted gross income above $250,000.
 
The deduction is available only for new cars weighing 8,500 pounds or less.
 
The tax deduction is available to taxpayers who do not itemize as well as to those who do.
 
An Example
For the purchase of a $30,000 vehicle with 7% state sales tax, the taxpayer would receive a $2,100 tax deduction. The actual tax savings depends on the amount of sales and excise tax paid in your state and on your tax rate. Ask your dealer about your state's tax rates.
 
Your tax break is in addition to any incentives or rebates offered by the dealer and manufacturer. Check out dealer specials in your area.
 
For more detailed information on these tax benefits, visit http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204519,00.html.
 
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Re: Acura 2010 vs. Acura 2009 [khajokh] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 08, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: khajokh (Nov 08, 2009 2:22 pm)

Those incentives are for Canada, right?

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