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Re: 2009 MDX Base [caprice2]
by ynroy
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Nov 01, 2009 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: caprice2 (Nov 01, 2009 3:56 am)
OTD is 39500$ + extended warranty that is 3000$, I went to both dealers on end of month and they both are around same price range, I preferred Duval acura because they have the car I wanted
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- #8878 of 9220
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Re: My gosh do you all have nothing better to do??? [amikelhenry]
by sam159
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Nov 01, 2009 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: amikelhenry (Nov 01, 2009 8:58 am)
And ur interest in posting the "facts" that car dealers are there to save consumers money in Acura MDX discussion board is????
So I guess the right thing to do is to pay as much as the "local dealer" asks and get ripped off so that he/she can wish me when I meet him/her in the supermarket!!!
Looks like the dealer who I pissed off taking the business elsewhere is posting here!
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- #8879 of 9220
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Re: My gosh do you all have nothing better to do??? [sam159]
by bombay
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Nov 01, 2009 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: sam159 (Nov 01, 2009 12:00 pm)
Dealer dude - I'll buy into everything you say provided you are willing to petition the government to allow direct sales of vehicles on the internet to the public. Every other product is sold that way. So all the good stuff - the jobs for the local population, supporting the local economy pales in comparison to the issue of a NADA monopoly. But as Sam points out, unless you have anything to contribute to the pricing discussion, please seek sympathy elsewhere...
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Re: My gosh do you all have nothing better to do??? [bombay]
by amikelhenry
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Nov 01, 2009 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: bombay (Nov 01, 2009 12:36 pm)
Let me make then my last "contribution" to the pricing discussion, and I know most of you are saying "finally." The history of the car business in the 50s and 60s into the 70s even was at best uneven and perhaps worse than that. When Senator Munroney however introduced legislation standardizing MSRPs across the board, a lot of the difference that existed in pricing disappeared. With the advent of factories claiming that they are holding the line on price increases which in fact they and nobody else in any other field can do thereby holding onto the same retail price but passing costs and increases onto the dealer the average MSRP today has about a 7% markup. For those mathematically challenged that means on a $30,000 MSRP car it might have a $1700 markup. How is that "ripping you off" if you agreed to pay that? What other store do you go in and see the price tag and spend the time and energy haggling over the "sticker" price and my guess, and I am willing to be corrected, is that many other commodities you buy you are paying a far higher % than 7% markup. Be careful when you characterize somebody as stealing from you or as a boogyman that you need to be adversarial with. In today's market and economy we all are trying to find our way and all I am saying if you are lucky enough to be in a position to afford a new car, get in the store and start enjoying it because once the dust settles whether you save a couple of hundred bucks or not is not going to affect your enjoyment of the car. Best of luck!
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Re: My gosh do you all have nothing better to do??? [amikelhenry]
by jayrider
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Nov 01, 2009 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: amikelhenry (Nov 01, 2009 1:36 pm)
That 7% average may be accurate. The problem is that there are all kinds of rebates and incentives that result in much greater discounts for consumers. These come from the factory of course but the battle to negotiate is done in the dealership. Some of these price breaks are advertised and some are at the dealers discretion. Let the games begin. And don't forget the action in the finance office.
Most dealerships operate on the square but not all. If the factories could operate by selling directly to consumers they would. Too many potential problems. They need a retail component just like almost all the products you buy. Factories rarely sell anything at wholesale direct. You can buy a stove on the internet for less than one at Lowes but it stillcomes from a retailer.Lowes won't help if that stove doesn't work. Most folks want to see the stove and check out the options and operations. Almost all big items need sales staffs to maximize profits and provide service. Capitalism 101. When gm sells chevy's directly through walmart, who is going to service and take care of warranty issues? That day is coming in the distant future when cars will be modulized. Unhook the section not working and bolt in a new one. Could be 50-75 years in the future but not now.
This discussion belongs somewhere else.
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Re: My gosh do you all have nothing better to do??? [amikelhenry]
by mensah007
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Nov 01, 2009 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: amikelhenry (Nov 01, 2009 1:36 pm)
Listen, your job is to sell the car for the biggest profit possible, our's is to get the best price possible. I'm sure if someone walked in and asked to pay $500 more than the MSRP on the vehicle, you wouldn't turn it down because you wanted to be fair and build a relationship with them. When you buy a car for yourself, do you just pay the sticker price because you want to build a relationship or do you "haggle" for the best price? Sorry for sounding cynical, but after purchasing almost 10 cars, I pretty much have an idea of how things work. Thanks for expressing your thoughts though, I'll keep that in mind when a sales person is trying to overcharge me because they don't think I know any better.
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Acura MDX w/ Tech 38,700
by douglesso
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Nov 01, 2009 (5:26 pm)
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Just thought I'd post my closing deal here in the DC area. I used the tactics from fightingchance.com and was able to bring the price down on an 09 tech package to 38,700+TTL. I think I ended up paying 41000 with maryland taxes and fees. With the 2010s coming out around the corner better deals are to be had here in DC. Many of the dealers in the area were within a few hundred of this number. Base models were out there for 34K.
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Re: Acura MDX w/ Tech 38,700 [douglesso]
by lexluthor
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Nov 01, 2009 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: douglesso (Nov 01, 2009 5:26 pm)
Any particular dealers that you know where at $34K for the 2009 MDX Base?
How come the dealers in DC and VA are around $34K for the base and up here in NY, no one is budging much below $36K?
I don't understand at all.
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Re: My gosh do you all have nothing better to do??? [amikelhenry]
by bemer
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Nov 01, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: amikelhenry (Nov 01, 2009 2:29 am)
Check this out:
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/page001.html
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Re: 2009 MDX Base [ynroy]
by roundview
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Nov 01, 2009 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: ynroy (Oct 31, 2009 8:41 pm)
The dealer sold extended warranty is usually too high. If you feel you need the warranty, you can find it cheaper online (I'm talking about the same AcuraCare rather than some generic third party warranties). For example, you can check the prices at
http://www.officialacuracare-at-delrayacura.com/prc.asp?gclid=CPbNl--g650CFUlo5Q- odSXiVLQ
You can try to get the dealer to lower the price to match what you found online, or you can ask them to cancel. A word of caution, though. I once tried to cancel an Extended Warranty bought from a dealer, and it took over a year for me to eventually to get my money back. The finance guy at the dealership apparently tried to stall it by not sending the cancellation form to AcuraCare. Hopefully your dealer will not use the same tactics on you if you try to cancel it.
Another thing is that your car is covered by the factory warranty for the next few years. So you don't have to decide on purchasing the Extended Warranty now. You can always buy it later if you feel you'd need it.
Hopefully this helps.
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