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Re: Buying 2008 G35 Journey sedan [topgun7] by 8thbug
Dec 10, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: topgun7 (Dec 10, 2008 10:15 am)

You can't be serious. I hardly think that it would be reasonable to get on an airplane from Florida and go to LA to shop for a car. Also, I emailed numerous dealers when I bought my Lincoln several months ago, and I'm not confident that is the way to get the absolute best price on a car. The dealers may quote you a price based on their standard formula for internet sales, but who says you can't do better, especially when there are incentives offered by the manufacturer?
 
Any reasonable suggestions as to what is the way to find the best price for this car?
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Re: Bought my 08 G35 [metalblaze] by mosho
Dec 10, 2008 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: metalblaze (Dec 10, 2008 8:42 am)

My deal is $8,280 below MSRP without .9 financing so that puts it about there.
I carefully calculated the pros of the low APR and felt that this was best for me.
Like I would have to pay sales tax on the $3,000 added to the car price if I went with low APR.
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Re: Help on buying a G or M 35 [WildcatFan] by redline122
Dec 10, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: WildcatFan (Dec 10, 2008 5:34 am)

Wildcat,
What options are you considering in your 35,500 deal?
 
What was the MSRP on the vehicle?
 
For kicks, I asked 2 dealerships what I would expect from a 2008 G35 Journey deal. I was looking at features that included the "sport package" and "navigation/technology".
 
I think the sticker on the car was close to $38K.
The "invoice price" on the car was quoted to me at $34,200
The "cash price" on the car was quoted to me at $31,200 ($3000 core cash incentive reduced from invoice price)
 
And this was without any haggling. If they are truly desperate to get rid of the G-sedans, you may be able to squeeze another $1000 off the cash price.
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Re: Bought my 08 G35 [mosho] by 8thbug
Dec 10, 2008 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: mosho (Dec 10, 2008 4:36 am)

So what is your interest rate, and for how many months? You did have to finance through Infiniti to get the $3000, didn't you?
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Re: G35 Journey San Diego [redline122] by drjustin
Dec 10, 2008 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: redline122 (Dec 08, 2008 3:21 pm)

redline,
 
you stated
 
"This is NOT the what the dealer paid for the car."
 
would you be so kind to break down the pricing of the car. what the dealer pays and what the fee's are associated? i.e. buydown's, selldown's cash incentives, holdback's etc?
 
i always thought invoice was what they paid for the car??
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Re: Buying 2008 G35 Journey sedan [8thbug] by topgun7
Dec 10, 2008 (11:26 pm)
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Replying to: 8thbug (Dec 10, 2008 11:44 am)

"You can't be serious. I hardly think that it would be reasonable to get on an airplane from Florida and go to LA to shop for a car. Also, I emailed numerous dealers when I bought my Lincoln several months ago, and I'm not confident that is the way to get the absolute best price on a car. The dealers may quote you a price based on their standard formula for internet sales, but who says you can't do better, especially when there are incentives offered by the manufacturer?
  
Any reasonable suggestions as to what is the way to find the best price for this car?"
 
Heh heh, I thought it is a reasonable way to buy cars since I have been doing these for the last 8 years or so (since internet become the go to place for information) 8-))
 
As far as shopping in LA area, it really depend how much you value your time and how much saving you are going to get.. Some people will never go out of their city to buy a car and other will go anywhere if they can save a couple thousand dollars. And you can always ship your car back home (instead of driving back) for a few hundred dollars. Some manufacturer actually can ship the car to a different dealers from the one you buy the car and all we need to do is pay a few hundred dollars to the receiving dealer for perp. Corvette people seems to do that a lot. So may be a free California vacation + some money in your pocket... This apply mostly for city where there is only one dealer of a specific brand and there is no competition to speak of.
 
As far as getting the best deal using email. I just leased an LS460 last Friday (12/5) and I spent about 1 1/2 hours total (including getting the detail break down, confirming the final deal on the phone etc..) to agree to the terms. Picking up the car is a different discussion since the dealer is about 100 miles from my home. The LS has an MSRP of 74765 and my sales price was 59692. I posted my deal in the LS460 forum. Lexus has a 6000 rebate on LS this month and I am pretty sure I get all of it.
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0fc7b2/128
 
The key of getting the best price is to generate competition among the dealers. The more people you talk to the better the chance you bump into one that is hungry for your sales and willing to take rock bottom price. Email does not always get me low price. If the market is hot or the car is new, there is no amount of negotiation that can get us close to invoice . It is all supply and demand. I paid MSRP for an SC430 when it first came out in 2001 when the waiting list is 30 deep in my dealership. And I leased an 07 G35 for $400 over invoice last year and I did the email thing. Email save me from listening to salesman B.S. on the phone. I can email 10 dealers in an hour. I seriously doubt that I can talk to 10 salesperson within the same amount of time. Good luck in your shopping.. It is fun...
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Re: G35 Journey San Diego [drjustin] by redline122
Dec 11, 2008 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: drjustin (Dec 10, 2008 6:04 pm)

drjustin,
From my experience and conversations from this and other car transactions I have done (not many I must admit, 4 of my own and 2 for friends), the selldowns and holdbacks are the cream that can be incorporated into the invoice price.
 
After knowing all the incentives on a car - the lease loyalty program, published selldowns (within the dealer's binder), holdbacks (not found written down anywhere in the dealership to the prospective customer's eyes), and the manufacturer to customer all-cash incentives - you can get pretty close to the number in which the dealer is truly making a couple of hundred dollars at best.
 
It really does pay to simply ask the question to the sales managers... I worked with the Internet Sales Manager.
 
I am certain that my $41K M45s transaction may sound good on paper and forum, but I am certain that the dealer made money somewhere in there (maybe more manufacturer to dealer cash to move aging inventory)... but at the end of the day all parties were able to close on a number.
 
Some unorthodox negotiations and building a case for my "first crazy offer" (as the managers called it) are beckoned with the current economic crisis.
 
I probably spent about 3.5 hours of total talk time (phone and in-person) in getting a number I felt good about.
 
I think of that 3.5 hours, I spent about 20 minutes test driving the new 2009 FX50S - a sleeping beast... argh! That almost convinced me to start dealing with it rather than the M45S. I had to control my caveman instincts... Oh yeah... the MSRP for that crossover beast was $67,000. Let's see how many months that will stay on the lot.
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Re: G35X LEASE QUESTION [dae928] by max_anderson
Dec 11, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: dae928 (Dec 09, 2008 2:17 pm)

dae928, which dealer did you get that deal from? I'm in the Chicago-area as well and am looking at the G35X. To put that deal in perspective, I just got quoted $811 a month for an Audi A4 that stickered for around $42K. If you're under $500 per month with taxes rolled in on a $38K car, I'd say you did pretty well.
 
BTW - I told Audi to get bent. There residuals are garbage so they can't compete in the leasing game with the Japanese.
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Re: G35 Journey San Diego [metalblaze] by txvinyl1
Dec 11, 2008 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: metalblaze (Dec 10, 2008 6:35 am)

Is there a possibility of better incentives from the manufacturer coming at the end of December or early January for 2008 cars? The Infiniti dealerships here still have tons of 08 cars on hand. The G37 incentives have been the same since October, how are they going to get people to buy them if nothing has changed? What happens if the dealerships don't sell them by the end of this year? Can they sell 08's in 2009 or do they have to get rid of them before that? Would a dealership be willing to take a loss if they can't sell a car for a profit?
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Re: G35 Journey San Diego [txvinyl1] by kingpcgeek
Dec 11, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: txvinyl1 (Dec 11, 2008 1:43 pm)

Kind of like asking in the stock market going to hit 8000 or 6000 at the end of the month, no one but a psychic knows.

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