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Replying to: mikesal (Feb 27, 2008 6:26 pm) You should also ask if they routinely add dealer installed options to all cars offered for sale. Another trick it to pack them up with $1k or more of this junk (paint and fabric protectant, wind deflector, nitrogen fill, etc) then offer the car for invoice and THEN say you have to pay $1k or more for the mostly worthless extras. If the dealers report that is their price for the car with destination and all dealer fees (anything not required as a tax, title, tag type fee) include and you can buy or lease one without any dealer installed options - then good deal for you and go get you one! Hopefully they will not try to add junk to your deal. If you know how your local tax, title, tire fees, etc all work and what they are - then ask for an OTD price from the dealer - then work up your own OTD price based on your knowledge of local and state taxes, inspection fees, etc. If you get the same number then you should be good to go. Dennis |
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 27, 2008 11:04 am) So how does it sound? 439/39/12k |
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Replying to: solstice3 (Jan 28, 2008 9:30 am) thanks....
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Replying to: max8085 (Feb 27, 2008 10:01 pm) Dennis
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Replying to: carsforall (Feb 27, 2008 5:24 pm) The formula for the VPP price is publish and is simple to drop into a spreadsheet: In cell B3 put the invoice including destination, then in cells B4-B7 put the following calculations: =B3-715 =B4 * (1 - 0.0165) =B5*1.025 =B6+715 The answer in B7 will be your VPP price. If I were dealing with a VPP code I would call all the dealers within 100-200 miles from home and try to find one that has no doc fee and will honor the VPP code. $577 a month is meaningless if you don't state the model you are looking to lease, options, the sales tax rate, and or course the lease term. Dennis
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 28, 2008 7:44 am) |
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 28, 2008 7:44 am) 39/12k With 1st month and DMV Cause the price of the car Which i was quoted before was I believe according to edmunds is 2000 over invoice, which I still don't understand was giving me a payment of 440 a month.
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Replying to: max8085 (Feb 28, 2008 9:33 am) I would find another dealer, use the Infiniti dealer locator and see how many dealers you can find in a 100-200 mile radius. Dennis |
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 28, 2008 7:53 am) I do not understand how they come up with the lease numbers though (24 mths/ 895 down inclusive of 1st month payment/ 577 per mth inclusive of all taxes / the sales tax rate in WA = 9.2). Please let me know if you do. The dealer finally agreed to waive some fees totalling $300 (B&O and some other fee). A search around the Seattle area (with a 100 mile radius) brought up only 2 dealerships - both of which are owned by the same person. Calling the other did not help as they said they could not better the deal. Thanks a lot to Dennis and everyone else for the information and advice! Will post the final price if we go for it.
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Replying to: carsforall (Feb 28, 2008 2:40 pm) The G35x lease buy rate for 24 month is 0.00123, the residual is 69% for 15k and 70% for 12k per year. You don't state the MSRP, so I will use $40,615 which is the current MSRP for an x with tech/nav/prem and nothing else. The formula to figure payment is: (Cap Cost – Residual Value) / Term = Depreciation (Cap Cost + Residual Value) X Money Factor = Interest Depreciation + Interest = Base Monthly Payment We will assume you are rolling in the $595 bank fee and 15k miles per year and your car has the MSRP I showed. (37905 - 28024.35) / 24 = $411.70 (37905 + 28024.35) * 0.00123 = $81.10 $411.70 + $81.10 = $492.80 Check my math, I did it in a hurry. It looks like WA taxes on the payment and you say your rate is 9.2% so adding tax to the payment should get us to $538.14 per month. That would be for 15k miles with the car and the $595 bank fee in the lease and you paying anything else (tags, title, etc) at signing. That is what I get, only the dealer could explain where they are getting their number. But knowing how to work it out yourself you can check tier math to make sure it does match up. If the residual is correct, I have to add $830 to the net cap cost to get the payment they gave you. You money down less first payment is $318. So using your VPP number you came up with, the lease buy rate and residual for 15k miles, and your tax on payment we are missing $1,148. That is a lot. Maybe there is property tax, dealer fee, whatever - but it sounds like your are getting ripped off. Dennis |
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