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G35x w/Premium and Nav in the Washington,DC area by mikesal
Feb 27, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Any recent buying experiences in the Washington, DC / Virginia / MD area? The posts on this board imply that dealers are currently hungry and selling for a few hundred over invoice. But after just a single call to the local Infiniti internet sales managers, they are offering anywhere from a few hundred BELOW invoice to $100 above. Any recommendations or recent experiences to share in the DC market? I'm getting ready to pull the trigger this week. Thanks! -mike
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Re: G35x w/Premium and Nav in the Washington,DC area [mikesal] by dwynne
Feb 27, 2008 (8:50 pm)
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Replying to: mikesal (Feb 27, 2008 6:26 pm)

Just make sure you get your quotes to include the price for the car with destination and any dealer doc or prep fees includes. Dealers have been known to leave out the destination fee on e-mail or phone quotes and once you show up they add it on top of the price they gave you. Ditto the dealer fees - where not limited in amount by law, these can can be $400, $500, or more. So if the give you a nice price and leave off the fee it turns bad once they roll that on top of the deal. They will say "see, this fee is pre-printed right on all out forms we always charge that.
 
You should also ask if they routinely add dealer installed options to all cars offered for sale. Another trick it to pack them up with $1k or more of this junk (paint and fabric protectant, wind deflector, nitrogen fill, etc) then offer the car for invoice and THEN say you have to pay $1k or more for the mostly worthless extras.
 
If the dealers report that is their price for the car with destination and all dealer fees (anything not required as a tax, title, tag type fee) include and you can buy or lease one without any dealer installed options - then good deal for you and go get you one! Hopefully they will not try to add junk to your deal. If you know how your local tax, title, tire fees, etc all work and what they are - then ask for an OTD price from the dealer - then work up your own OTD price based on your knowledge of local and state taxes, inspection fees, etc. If you get the same number then you should be good to go.
 
Dennis
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Re: The newbie [dwynne] by max8085
Feb 27, 2008 (10:01 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 27, 2008 11:04 am)

Hey Just talked to the dealer and he said the agreed price on the car was 36475 with doc fees , but without DMV
 
So how does it sound? 439/39/12k
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Re: VPP & Associated Fees [solstice3] by carsforall
Feb 27, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: solstice3 (Jan 28, 2008 9:30 am)

Do you mind telling me which state you got your car. I also have the benefits of VPP plan D but the dealer is quoting me $600 over invoice in WA state. The final price for a lease based on 600 over invoice comes to 577/month after 895 down. Do you think this is fair considering it is VPP pricing.
 
thanks....
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Re: The newbie [max8085] by dwynne
Feb 28, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: max8085 (Feb 27, 2008 10:01 pm)

You said before you were getting a "g35x premium" - the invoice on an 08 x with just the premium pack is $34,284 including destination. If that is how yours is equipped then your $36,475 price for the car, destination, and doc fee is terrible. If your car has more options on them then you need to calculate the invoice for the car as equipped and compare it to your price.
 
Dennis
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Re: VPP & Associated Fees [carsforall] by dwynne
Feb 28, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: carsforall (Feb 27, 2008 5:24 pm)

VPP plan C and D pricing should be around $275 to $300 over invoice - depending on the options on the car - not $600 over. Sounds like your dealer is adding a $300 or so doc fee to your deal.
 
The formula for the VPP price is publish and is simple to drop into a spreadsheet:
 
In cell B3 put the invoice including destination, then in cells B4-B7 put the following calculations:
 
=B3-715
=B4 * (1 - 0.0165)
=B5*1.025
=B6+715
 
The answer in B7 will be your VPP price.
 
If I were dealing with a VPP code I would call all the dealers within 100-200 miles from home and try to find one that has no doc fee and will honor the VPP code.
 
$577 a month is meaningless if you don't state the model you are looking to lease, options, the sales tax rate, and or course the lease term.
 
Dennis
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Re: The newbie [dwynne] by joen05
Feb 28, 2008 (2:55 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 28, 2008 7:44 am)

Dennis is right. I recently (December) purchased a G35x with Premium and Nav, with port installed splashguards for 35769 including destination. If what you state is in fact.. your deal, you should probably try to work out another one....
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Re: The newbie [dwynne] by max8085
Feb 28, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 28, 2008 7:44 am)

Okay my dealer is giving me a run around with prices and invoices. I live in NY I want to know how much a premium g35x would go for price wise and monthly wise with the following term:
 
39/12k With 1st month and DMV
 
Cause the price of the car Which i was quoted before was I believe according to edmunds is 2000 over invoice, which I still don't understand was giving me a payment of 440 a month.
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Re: The newbie [max8085] by dwynne
Feb 28, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: max8085 (Feb 28, 2008 9:33 am)

If they are using that open end, non IFS lease then they can over charge you for the car and still give you a low payment. The bite comes at the end when you have to pay up.
 
I would find another dealer, use the Infiniti dealer locator and see how many dealers you can find in a 100-200 mile radius.
 
Dennis
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Re: VPP & Associated Fees [dwynne] by carsforall
Feb 28, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 28, 2008 7:53 am)

The car I was quoted for is a g35x with premium, nav and tech (forced to buy tech because the color we liked did not have something with only the premium and nav). Using your formula I came up with a price of $37310 - around $300 over invoice.
 
I do not understand how they come up with the lease numbers though (24 mths/ 895 down inclusive of 1st month payment/ 577 per mth inclusive of all taxes / the sales tax rate in WA = 9.2). Please let me know if you do.
 
The dealer finally agreed to waive some fees totalling $300 (B&O and some other fee).
 
A search around the Seattle area (with a 100 mile radius) brought up only 2 dealerships - both of which are owned by the same person. Calling the other did not help as they said they could not better the deal.
 
Thanks a lot to Dennis and everyone else for the information and advice! Will post the final price if we go for it.

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