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Re: My proposal...whaddya think? [happycamry] by straightdope
Feb 25, 2008 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: happycamry (Feb 22, 2008 4:55 pm)

Happy Camry,
I agree. Holdback is pure profit so why would anyone ignore it when negotiating a price? I tried to tell the forum earlier that determining Actual Dealer Cost, not just "invoice" is the way to proper starting point for negotiating your final offer, but it fell on deaf ears.
When doing the remote bidding process ('fax or internet attack') ask for and get the dealer's final, out the door, bottom line price including any doc. prep and destination fees but excluding mandatory gov't taxes & fees (tax, title, license, registration, which are constant). That way they can't surprise you when you show up to sign. Tell them that if that's not the price on the paperwork, you'll walk.
Obviously, the fax attack isn't very effective in one dealer towns--but even then you can still use it to bluff you're way into a good price. [The Des Moines Iowa Infinity fleet manager doesn't know that you don't want to drive to metro Chicago to get a better price. Call his bluff. ]
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Re: G35x NJ 2yr lease deal offered to dealer [mrv1] by blov8r
Feb 26, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: mrv1 (Feb 23, 2008 2:32 pm)

This looks like a good lease, especially when compared to the quoted 24 month lease here in Tucson. $4,500 OTD + ~ $395 + taxes/month. I've found that if I start "trolling" for my next car a couple or three months ahead of my lease's end and contact dealerships in Phoenix as well as here sooner or later one of them will have to move some units at a materially better rate ... and that's the one I deal with. As an aside, ten years ago my daughter wanted a particular Isuzu Rodeo ... color, options, etc, and the Tucson dealer said a) none matching her description were available anywhere in the zone, and b) the price she was quoted in Phoenix was impossible to meet. A week later he called with the exact unit and $500 below the Phoenix dealer's price. We can't outguess these guys ... this is what they do for a living. But if we play it "cool" and have time to fish the salmon will often swim upstream to us. Bart
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Leasing 2008 Infiniti G35x. NEED AN ADVICE! PLEASE! by nazarenk
Feb 26, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 23, 2008 11:55 am)

Hi,
 
I am in the process of leasing a new 2008 INFINITI G35x/ Premium Package/ Splash Guards/Cargo Net. I am using VPP number. Here is what I got form a dealer (Hartford, Connecticut area):
 
Retail Value: $37,325
Savings: $2,838
Adj. Sales Price: $34,487
Conveyance Fee: $299
Tax: $2,087
Tag Fee: $165
Net Sales Price: $37,038
 
They want me to pay $1,800 down that includes:
 
Bank Fee: $595
Registration: $165
First Month Payment: $477
Conveyance Fee: $299
Cap Cost Reduction: $264
 
Based on this price the lease for 36 month/15,000 miles per year is:
$477/month
 
I do not think this is a good deal, but it seams that I cannot find where they are cheating me
 
Please, help! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Leasing 2008 Infiniti G35x. NEED AN ADVICE! PLEASE! [nazarenk] by dwynne
Feb 26, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: nazarenk (Feb 26, 2008 9:59 am)

The current MSRP for that car would be $37,575 with an invoice of $34,444. Your MSRP of $37,325 reflect a pre-price increase car. So if we take the $250 difference at MSRP from the current invoice we get $34,184 for invoice (should be close enough). Plugging that invoice into my VPP spreadsheet shows a plan C or pan D price of $34,454.68 which is close to the number you show - so your number should be correct - $34,487 .
 
The lease residual on a x for 36/15k should be 59% and the buy rate for top tier lessees is 0.00149. Plugging all that into a lease calc show a payment of $430.45 IF you paid everything up front and not including tax. Since you dealer is suggesting that you pay all that up front and a $264 cap cost reduction, that makes your payment $422.73 per month not including tax.
  
I assume you live in CT? It looks like they tax on the payment at the rate of 6%. So adding that to the payment I figured I get $448.10 per month which is a lot lower than your dealer's payment.
 
Based on the tax amount you posted, I am guessing that you do not live in CT but in another state that charges a much higher amount of charges tax on the whole car and not just the depreciation or payment. If I had that tax amount shown on top of the car the payment comes out close to your dealer's number.
 
Dennis
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Re: Leasing 2008 Infiniti G35x. NEED AN ADVICE! PLEASE! [nazarenk] by almatti
Feb 26, 2008 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: nazarenk (Feb 26, 2008 9:59 am)

Dear Nazarenk: Try Pepe Infiniti in White Plains, NY . I am a Costco Customer. I live in Westchester Co., NY and was referred to Pepe as an Executive Member of Costco. They treated me very well. I leased a 2007 G35X - Black/Stone, w/o Navi, Premium package, $2,400 OTD which included sales tax (about $1400), bank fee, a nd fist months payment. Pay $440/mo; 39 months, and they are a very repsonsive dealership. My initial contact was made via the WEB & used the Costco referral. I priced the deal at 5 different dealships: Manhasset, Massepequa, Manhattan, a Jersey Dealer and the one in Hartsford. My cousin is one of the main mechanics at Massapequa, even they couldn't beat the price. Did it at Month's end April 2007. Best bet is to wait for the last day or 2 of the month as Dealers want to make quotas. This forum does not allow me to relay the Internet sales person name. All I can sy is: it was a female.
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Re: Leasing 2008 Infiniti G35x. NEED AN ADVICE! PLEASE! [almatti] by almatti
Feb 26, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: almatti (Feb 26, 2008 6:33 am)

Oh Yeah. Forgot to add: 16.500 Miles per year with the lease at the price + add tags and title charges - another $78 or so, I think.
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Reset miles in 2008 G35x? by allbiz
Feb 26, 2008 (12:48 pm)
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Does anyone know how to reset the trip miles so I can see how far a tank of gas will get me?
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Re: Reset miles in 2008 G35x? [allbiz] by happycamry
Feb 26, 2008 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: allbiz (Feb 26, 2008 12:48 pm)

This isn't the right forum for that, Allbiz. . . . (Hint: Look to the lower left area on the dash--it's possibly hidden from your view by the steering wheel.)
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Re: Reset miles in 2008 G35x? [allbiz] by dwynne
Feb 26, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: allbiz (Feb 26, 2008 12:48 pm)

RTFM - and I posted a link the PDF for the "FM" the other day .
 
I sat at the gas station after my first fill up looking for this as well - and finally had to pull out the "FM" to see.
 
The reset is on the left side of the dash on the front behind the steering wheel. Where *I* sit and have the wheel set it is perfectly hidden and on subsequent fill ups I had to hunt for it each time . See item 5 on the cockit layout picture.
 
Dennis
 


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Re: Leasing 2008 Infiniti G35x. NEED AN ADVICE! PLEASE! [dwynne] by nazarenk
Feb 26, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 26, 2008 11:28 am)

Dennis,
 
Thanks a lot for your quick posting. I really appreciate it.
I do live in Connecticut Hartford area and the sales tax is 6%
 
Since $34,487 is correct and you confirmed that, I assume that something is off on the rest of their calculations.
 
I plugged all the numbers you gave me into Edmund's lease calculator (59% residual value, .000079 money factor - assuming that 1.9% is the rate, then 1.9/2400=.000079) and my number was $465/month.
Still lower then what they want.
 
I do not understand why am I paying tax twice? I am paying $2,087 tax on the car price and then every month I am paying tax on my monthly payment???
 
Thanks again,
 
nazarenk

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