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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 23, 2008 11:55 am) True, if a buyer is not willing to travel beyond one or two nearby dealers, it's not likely that the potential savings will be as great. Speaking purely from my own level of tolerance, I was willing to drive five hours to save several hundred dollars. (about $500 less than what I would have received at a dealer two hours away) Phoenix is not a small market but, true, that doesn't mean it's an easy one. Some would be willing to drive to LA, and some not. I'm in Florida which is considered an expenisve, tough market but, with patience, it's winnable, too. Nobody is on this forum to compete with each other, or boast, only to help each other get a realistic sense of what is likely realistic, given the specifics of a car, and the current sales market, nationally and in various regional markets. I've gotten fantastic help here from terrific folks and am happy to share it, too. **** "Happycamry can talk all about his "fax attack" and other ideas about about getting great deals - and they may work in SoCal of someplace where dealers are around ever corner, but if there is little dealer choice (and they no it) ---SIC--- then they are not as inclined to feel the need for competing against each other. "
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Closed on a G today and am absolutely stoked!! I love the car (...though it's my wife's...  ) and got the deal I wanted. Sure, some may say I left $100 on the table here or there, but all-in-all, I feel like I made out well. Here are the details for your review (dealer was Pinnacle Infiniti in Scottsdale, AZ - e-mail me if you want the salesperson's name - he was great): - 2008 G35 Journey in Platinum Graphite/Stone - $29,480 invoice (prior to 1/1 build, I think) - CGO (cargon net) - $46 inv. - P01 (Premium package) - $2,155 inv. - SGD (splash guards) - $114 inv. - Destination - $715 - Total invoice - $32,510 I offered $32,910 for this vehicle: $200 above invoice because I'm a great guy and feel that is fair, and another $200 for the $1,995 B.S. add-on package of "extras" to cover the cost of the tint (which I again feel is fair). I categorically refused to pay for the $297 Zaktek paint protection they put on every vehicle, and actually have "hard-coded" on the bill of sale. I made them white it out and zero it out. They came back at $33,110, at which point I dropped a potential trade on them. I had left that unaddressed - they didn't ask me explicitly, and I didn't offer it up. The G was replacing my wife's '04 Honda Accord EX V-6, and I had been planning on selling it myself. But I figured I'd see what I could get, hoping for a net to me of $15,000 (trade value + $992 loan payoff + tax savings). After some back and forth, with me telling them that I'd be on my way to the next two Infiniti dealers on my list if we couldn't strike a deal, I ended up back at the original $32,910 offer for the G, $13K for the trade, $900 towards my loan payoff and $1,105 in tax savings, for a net to me on the trade of $15,005. Which was exactly what I was looking for. My point being, if I sold it myself, I would have to get better than $15K for it to match that, not to mention the hassle factor of showing and selling a vehicle. I had done the comps and, at best, I was looking at $15.5K-ish as a final sale price. Also considering that Edmunds valued the trade at $13,466; KBB at $12,785 and Galves at $11,650. So I was thrilled to essentially get $14K for it.. I agreed at that point, waited for the vehicle, which had to be driven up from their sister store, Infiniti of Scottsdale (in south Scottsdale, on McDowell Rd.), checked it out, then waited for them to detail it, and off I went. I can't tell you how helpful this forum has been during this whirlwind, two-week courtship of a new G35. It has enabled me to really hone in on what a good deal would look like. I know I could have held out for another $100 here or there, but not much more, if at all. I think it's on overall fair transaction, and a win-win. I know I am happy - I got everything out of this that I had hoped for. If it was also good for the dealer, then so be it. But I absolutely know that I got just about exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again, everyone, particularly you, Dennis. I appreciate your patience and thoughtfulness. Walt in AZ |
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Replying to: waltaz (Feb 23, 2008 11:26 pm) |
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Replying to: waltaz (Feb 23, 2008 11:26 pm) BTW, I passed on everything the Finance guy tried to sell me, just politely telling him "No," and he was very cool about it. I can't believe they hard-code that $297 Zaktek charge onto the order. That's pretty agressive by them. I would expect to have them try and sell it to me, but including it as a matter-of-fact is a bit much. But all in all, it was a relatively low-key and respectful process with Pinnacle. |
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Replying to: waltaz (Feb 23, 2008 11:26 pm)
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Replying to: waltaz (Feb 23, 2008 11:26 pm) Congrats on your new G!! Looks like you did everything right and got a great deal.. Would you mind posting what you paid for the license plate registration and title fees? I know that doesn't help anyone on the list outside of AZ, but I will be stopping in this week to see if I can close my deal and want to see if my out the door numbers are correct.. Based on my estimates the license plate/registration fee would be about $630 and the title fee $20. Is this close to what you paid? Thanks again for your help and congrats!! Randy |
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Replying to: praz (Feb 24, 2008 8:25 am) I have been into this dealer before and I believe the $1,995 in extras includes Nitrogen filled tires, Wheel Locks, Door Edge Gaurds, and Zaktek premium paint protectant. Waltaz would have to confirm but this is what they told me was included with each vehicle.
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Replying to: kman1311 (Feb 24, 2008 11:14 am) I will post up all the fees later tonight when I get home - didn't get around to it yesterday. As for the $1995, I'm not entirely sure, as the extra sticker detailing that was gone by the time I got the car (which Pinnacle had driven up from Infiniti of Scottsdale on McDowell Rd. - Pinnacle didn't have the color/trim combo that I wanted). I think kman is correct: tint, nitrogen, wheel locks, don't know about door guards as there aren't any of the black ones. The Zaktek is above the $1995 and is shown as a separate, "hard-coded" line item of $297 on the order. I had them white that out, said no way, though you still get it. More to follow... |
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Replying to: allbiz (Feb 23, 2008 2:41 pm) If you smelled a burning plastic smell you may have caught a grocery bag under the car and it is burning/melting on the cats or other exhaust part. Mine is NOT anything like a melting plastic smell. Be sure to check your new engine's oil regularly as you break it in - new motors often will burn a little oil as they wear in and you need to make sure it is topped up if it uses any. Dennis |
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Replying to: happycamry (Feb 23, 2008 6:29 pm) I used it 3 years ago when getting my wife a new Accord and it did nothing to help me. The dealers that deal low were the lowest, the other dealers would not touch the deal (down into holdback) that I already again. Again, a limited number of dealerships in the area limits the competition. Miami shows 6 dealers, Orlando or Tampa show 4, but Tallahassee and Jacksonville have just 1 each. So south FL is not too bad a place to shop, but north FL would look a lot tougher. You and I may be here trying to help folks and post honest prices, but you can't know that for everyone that posts here. In fact, I can only vouch for the veracity of the price that *I* paid in the forum  . The point is - if you can get a price close to invoice for the car, destination, and dealer fee then you have a good price - for sure if you don't have to travel to get it. IF you do have enough dealers to compete for the deal then you may can get lower - but a lot of that depends on how many dealerships are around to compete and who owns them. Patience always serves a buyer well and waiting can often produce a better price - but if you find the current finance rate or lease rate to your liking the waiting could produce a lower price but higher financial numbers. Dennis |
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