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Replying to: waltaz (Feb 22, 2008 7:22 pm) Happycamry can talk all about his "fax attack" and other ideas about about getting great deals - and they may work in SoCal of someplace where dealers are around ever corner, but if there is little dealer choice (and they no it) then they are not as inclined to feel the need for competing against each other. Go to the dealer locator and put in an LA ZIP code and 100 miles - 17 dealerships come up. For a Phoenix ZIP code and 100 miles 5 come up, 9 for a Chicago area ZIP, San Diego shows 12, San Francisco show 10, NYC shows a whopping 24 dealers inside 100 miles. My area shows 1. If I had to choose where to car shop and where I would feel I could get the best deal and to (really) get dealers competing for my money which of those areas would I choose? Which would areas would appear to be the hardest to score a deal in? Don't drive yourself nuts over what someone else SAYS they paid for a car SOMEWHERE else at some other time. Unless you are willing to travel to their location and by a car under similar circumstances then there could be no way for you to get the deal they SAY they got. In some cases a little travel can get you a better deal and it IS something to look into. Keep in mind, some folks post a nice price and then you later find out they also paid a $500 or more "doc fee" on top of the price. Some folks just plain post the wrong prices - by accident or on purpose. You can try for your best price where you live and check out prices in cities within an easy travel from where you live, but if none of the dealers is willing to deal down as low as you think they should you can either expand your search or simply wait. If the dealers you worked with get more desperate for a sale they will likely contact you to see if you are still in the market - and perhaps offer you a better price. If you don't hear from them, then you could contact them at the end of the month and see if they will drop their best offer at that time. If you are trying to take advantage of special finance or lease options, those could go away and change at any time. It does not do you much good to finally get the dealer to drop the price $300 only to find that the 2.9% financing is gone and you are stuck at 5% or more. You have to also consider diminishing returns - if you spend lots of your time and lots of travel to save $200 or something then you are just wasting your time (at least *I* value my free time highly and don't spend it cheaply). If you are driving around in a beater waiting to save a few bucks then that too seems nuts - go ahead and get your new car and enjoy it even if you have to pay a bit more. $200 on a $40k deal is 0.5%, $500 is 1.25%. Yes it is still money and yes you don't want to spend any more than you have to, but in the long term if you get the car you want at a nice price and nice terms then you have a good deal. No matter what someone else SAYS they paid somewhere else and at some other time. Dennis
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Hello Dennis: I've been working with dealers via e-mail. Can you please help me and verify if my offer is realistic. I'm offering lease at invoice. G35x w/premium,nav,splash guards,and cargo net. MSRP is 39475 mfg before 1/08. I estimate invoice at 36071. 595 lease aquisition fee in the lease Net Cap Cost would be 36666. Residual would be 71% = 28027.25 MF = .00123 2year lease with 12k per year 247.50 = MV docs,registration,title and tire disposal NJ tax rate is 7% Monthly 470.29  includes tax. OTD = 717.79 with 23 remaining monthly payments. At invoice is this a correct rate calculation. Thanks for your help.
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I just bought a new 2008 g35X with 11 miles on it. I noticed some smoke and burning smell coming form the engine and they told me it was normal for the first 100 miles since the engines come with some kind of coating on them from Japan? Is this true or just a bunch of bull. I never heard this or saw any posts about it. Any insight would be appreciated.
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Replying to: allbiz (Feb 23, 2008 2:41 pm) |
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Replying to: jeffmo2334 (Feb 23, 2008 9:25 am) |
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 23, 2008 11:55 am) True, if a buyer is not willing to travel beyond one or two nearby dealers, it's not likely that the potential savings will be as great. Speaking purely from my own level of tolerance, I was willing to drive five hours to save several hundred dollars. (about $500 less than what I would have received at a dealer two hours away) Phoenix is not a small market but, true, that doesn't mean it's an easy one. Some would be willing to drive to LA, and some not. I'm in Florida which is considered an expenisve, tough market but, with patience, it's winnable, too. Nobody is on this forum to compete with each other, or boast, only to help each other get a realistic sense of what is likely realistic, given the specifics of a car, and the current sales market, nationally and in various regional markets. I've gotten fantastic help here from terrific folks and am happy to share it, too. **** "Happycamry can talk all about his "fax attack" and other ideas about about getting great deals - and they may work in SoCal of someplace where dealers are around ever corner, but if there is little dealer choice (and they no it) ---SIC--- then they are not as inclined to feel the need for competing against each other. "
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Closed on a G today and am absolutely stoked!! I love the car (...though it's my wife's...  ) and got the deal I wanted. Sure, some may say I left $100 on the table here or there, but all-in-all, I feel like I made out well. Here are the details for your review (dealer was Pinnacle Infiniti in Scottsdale, AZ - e-mail me if you want the salesperson's name - he was great): - 2008 G35 Journey in Platinum Graphite/Stone - $29,480 invoice (prior to 1/1 build, I think) - CGO (cargon net) - $46 inv. - P01 (Premium package) - $2,155 inv. - SGD (splash guards) - $114 inv. - Destination - $715 - Total invoice - $32,510 I offered $32,910 for this vehicle: $200 above invoice because I'm a great guy and feel that is fair, and another $200 for the $1,995 B.S. add-on package of "extras" to cover the cost of the tint (which I again feel is fair). I categorically refused to pay for the $297 Zaktek paint protection they put on every vehicle, and actually have "hard-coded" on the bill of sale. I made them white it out and zero it out. They came back at $33,110, at which point I dropped a potential trade on them. I had left that unaddressed - they didn't ask me explicitly, and I didn't offer it up. The G was replacing my wife's '04 Honda Accord EX V-6, and I had been planning on selling it myself. But I figured I'd see what I could get, hoping for a net to me of $15,000 (trade value + $992 loan payoff + tax savings). After some back and forth, with me telling them that I'd be on my way to the next two Infiniti dealers on my list if we couldn't strike a deal, I ended up back at the original $32,910 offer for the G, $13K for the trade, $900 towards my loan payoff and $1,105 in tax savings, for a net to me on the trade of $15,005. Which was exactly what I was looking for. My point being, if I sold it myself, I would have to get better than $15K for it to match that, not to mention the hassle factor of showing and selling a vehicle. I had done the comps and, at best, I was looking at $15.5K-ish as a final sale price. Also considering that Edmunds valued the trade at $13,466; KBB at $12,785 and Galves at $11,650. So I was thrilled to essentially get $14K for it.. I agreed at that point, waited for the vehicle, which had to be driven up from their sister store, Infiniti of Scottsdale (in south Scottsdale, on McDowell Rd.), checked it out, then waited for them to detail it, and off I went. I can't tell you how helpful this forum has been during this whirlwind, two-week courtship of a new G35. It has enabled me to really hone in on what a good deal would look like. I know I could have held out for another $100 here or there, but not much more, if at all. I think it's on overall fair transaction, and a win-win. I know I am happy - I got everything out of this that I had hoped for. If it was also good for the dealer, then so be it. But I absolutely know that I got just about exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again, everyone, particularly you, Dennis. I appreciate your patience and thoughtfulness. Walt in AZ |
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Replying to: waltaz (Feb 23, 2008 11:26 pm) |
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Replying to: waltaz (Feb 23, 2008 11:26 pm) BTW, I passed on everything the Finance guy tried to sell me, just politely telling him "No," and he was very cool about it. I can't believe they hard-code that $297 Zaktek charge onto the order. That's pretty agressive by them. I would expect to have them try and sell it to me, but including it as a matter-of-fact is a bit much. But all in all, it was a relatively low-key and respectful process with Pinnacle. |
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