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2008 G35X, Premium, Navigation, Technology, Splash Guards, Cargo Net, Black on Black. 36,610 +299 Conveyance fee +110 registration + Taxes Hartford, CT....$700 below the VPP deal and I think right around invoice. I'm happy, car is fantastic! |
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Replying to: allbiz (Feb 13, 2008 7:15 pm) Dennis |
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Replying to: allbiz (Feb 13, 2008 7:25 pm) Dennis |
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Replying to: straightdope (Feb 13, 2008 8:16 pm) Edmunds, kbb, carsdirect.com, and many more sites have the invoice - for free. No need to pay CR for this info, though I am a long time subscriber I think their "car buying" thing is simply a rip off. It does not matter what you figure the dealer's true cost or actual net profit is if you can't get a dealer to sell you the car for that price. For most dealers, hold back is "sacred" and they will not deal down into it unless they just are desperate to move the car involved. Now, some high value dealers of less expensive cars will deal into hold back routinely - that is just how they deal with Internet buyers. Dennis
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Replying to: relater (Feb 13, 2008 9:10 pm) If no trade in, that is a very nice price. Dennis
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 13, 2008 6:49 pm) Dennis, I believe a recession is 2 quarters of economic contraction. Just splitting hairs, no biggie. "Jan 08 number is not that bad" I agree. Combined with the great financing rate means dealers are less anxious about sales. Hence their unwillingness to deal. I drove 500 miles round trip to save appx $500. I also did it because I liked the dealer's service.
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Replying to: wmaung (Feb 13, 2008 4:47 pm) I have a few questions and would appreciate if someone could answer them here: In today's market, is it reasonable to expect to buy AT(+/- 200) invoice price? Is it true in places like NJ? Apart from accessory prices, what makes up the 'TAG' part of the pricing? If a dealer is willing to deal a couple hundred below invoice, can I expect him to pull a fast one on me(like force me to buy add-ons etc) if so where and what should I watch out for? Has anybody found dealers in NJ who deal at or below invoice?
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Replying to: dwynne (Feb 14, 2008 9:28 am)
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Replying to: n3tto (Feb 14, 2008 11:19 am)  . A recession is a "stupid thing" since it is driven by consumer spending and other than the sub-prime folks that got zapped by their ARMs things are generally pretty good. But if the media keep talking recession and folks hearing that BELIEVE it then we WILL have a recession. If everyone focused on what is going right then I feel things should be fine. If the car companies sense buyers are waiting for better times then deal will probably get even better. Note that I know a few folks that already got great deals on pre-foreclosed houses they picked up on the cheap. Sure it can make them feel like a "vulture" or something, but the banks were going to take the houses back in any case. This way the previous mortgage holder does not screw up their credit. So while the "downturn" may be hurting those that were sub-prime, but it does help others get into a nice house for a nice price. My local dealer charges $500 for a doc fee and jacks up the MF on leases, so I drove about 320 miles round trip to get my G37 from a dealer with no doc fee and no markups. It is often well worth dealer shopping before you even start car shopping. Dennis |
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Replying to: vik_kid (Feb 14, 2008 12:12 pm) What they often leave out is the dealer doc or prep fees that they had to pay. With some high line dealers (like Infiniti) charging $500 or more for unnecessary fees you HAVE to include the fees when you post what you paid or were offered. If someone paid "$100 under invoice" for the car and $600 for the dealer fees then they really paid $500 over invoice. Similarly, if they have a trade in and were paid under book value on the trade they can't really claim they got a "great price on the new car" since without the trade in they probably would not have been able to get such a good price. Also folks will buy a bunch of (overpriced) accessories and/or maintenance/warranty plans from a dealer when they buy the car and then claim they got a "super deal". Probably not, since they let the dealer make more money on the accessories and warranty/maintenance the dealer could afford to give them a new car price that APPEARS outstanding. So I would first look for a dealer with little or no fees and no accessories added onto the car. The look up invoice price, including destination, for the car you want. You will want to try to pay no more than that number + $500 for the car, destination, and dealer fee. If you live in an area, like SoCal, that has a lot of dealers in a small area you may be able to buy at or under invoice. Here, were dealers are spread out far and wide, there is just not much way to make them deal much one against the other. Similarly, if you are looking for a car that the dealer has lots of you may can do better, if you are after the only 6mt sedan in the state then you may not be able to do as well. Looking at a G35x in winter may cost more than if you wait until the snow is well gone from where you live. Dennis |
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