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#5316 of 6172
Re: Leasing in Northeast Ohio [superman2424] by dwynne
Jan 12, 2008 (10:32 pm)
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Replying to: superman2424 (Jan 12, 2008 7:01 pm)

You can find the invoice on Edmunds, KBB, and other places. I like to use carsdirect.com because it enforces the "rules" like you have to check the premium pack to get the nav pack, etc.
 
The lease MF and residuals for Jan are posted here, probably 10-15 message above this one. You can also search for JAN in the search box.
 
It depends on if your father's friend works for Nissan or not. Nissan employees can generate C codes for their friends. Plan D is for employees of partner companies and NOT for friends of employees of partner companies. So if he works for Nissan, you can get a code, if not then you can't. For Plan D the buyer/lessee would have to provide ID and proof on employment with the partner company, so that would not fly for you.
 
As to the credit, you may have to get your father to co-sign your new lease for you. A 700 would probably put you just outside tier 1 for Nissan. They most likely use an auto enhanced score with no auto credit history your score may be really low. With a co-signer you can get the lease and once you pay it off with no lates you have no problem the next time getting the lease on your own. IFS would probably write you this time on your own, but the rate would be a lot higher I am afraid.
 
What are you planning on doing with your current car? If it is worth more than the current lease buy out you can sell it to a dealer or trade it in and be done with. Otherwise you might as well keep driving it and worry about a new car closer to the end of the current lease.
 
Dennis
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Re: Picked up our G35 XS today [mvs1] by dwynne
Jan 12, 2008 (10:48 pm)
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Replying to: mvs1 (Jan 12, 2008 6:45 pm)

The rates I posted for the x could be wrong. If you look at the lease special on the Infiniti web page it is for 39 months, but the MF works out to 0.00231 and the 12k residual is 59% . Your rate of 0.00228 makes more "sense" given this 39 month rate, they are normally pretty close as are the residuals. The cheaper rate I posted for the x for 36 months would be a large jump from what this online special rate works out to be.
 
Dennis
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Re: Is tire package worth it? [dwynne] by erving6
Jan 13, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Dec 29, 2007 11:39 pm)

Thanks for all the great information on the G35 sport tire package. I am interested in the sport package but am also concerned about the different size wheel / tire.
 
Can you put the upgraded sport 18 inch front wheel and tires on both the front and back giving you the same set? If so does anyone know if a dealer would be willing to do this?
 
 I like the sport package wheel and some of the other features of the sport package but would like to get the same size tire and wheel on all 4..
 
Thanks again
Randy
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Re: Picked up our G35 XS today [dwynne] by mvs1
Jan 13, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jan 12, 2008 9:50 pm)

Thanks for the feedback Dennis.
 
Yes, cap cost reduction, not fee, sorry for the misstatement.
 
As far as the numbers used, maybe this lease will get kicked back? I guess I'll hear something over the coming days. This deal overall was a little sketchy. And yes I should have disputed the numbers.
 
As far as the confusion on the spoiler, on my end the numbers did work out exactly, and I know we paid for this option. It was more so the salesperson's statement about back charging me for it after everything was signed for? I checked my Amex it there is still not the $500 deposit charge posted on it from two weeks back??? I called Amex this morning to put a note on the file for the $500 deposit/not exceed. In the event a charge higher than this appears I'll need to dispute it, since the note isn't a flag to not process just used for disputing charges. This could get slightly messy or they could not charge me at all, which means roughly a $50 under Invoice deal (unlikely).
 
Mike
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Re: Picked up our G35 XS today [dwynne] by mvs1
Jan 13, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jan 12, 2008 9:50 pm)

Oh almost forgot...thanks and she (we) choose Graphite (black) interior with the aluminum trim (standard on the sport) and Black Obsidian, exterior.
 
We also liked the Liquid platinum (silver) and Platinum Graphite (gray), exterior colors. Although, my Honda is silver and her soon to depart Audi is Dolphin Gray, so a little change. We both prefer dark interiors.
 
Mike
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Re: Is tire package worth it? [erving6] by dwynne
Jan 13, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: erving6 (Jan 13, 2008 7:36 am)

I think the wheels would fit, but I am sure the cost (new) would be silly high. You could always hope for a pair from a junk yard from a totalled car, I guess.
 
I think if you check the prices of those 18" tires they are high no matter what.
 
There are two concerns - you can't rotate the tires front to back to increase the tread life and the replacement rubber is VERY expensive and limited in choice. If you put 18" all around you could then rotate the tires, but the rubber for those tires is still going to be expensive.
 
Another concern COULD be that if there are any suspension tweaks that go on when the sports pack staggered tires are installed could compromise handling when the wider rears are removed.
 
You could also go with aftermarket wheels and tires from TireRack, DiscountTireDirect, etc but you are talking about a lot of money and you also have to have the TPMS sensors in the new wheels.
 
If you are are getting an automatic G sedan anyway, you could opt for the x with sports pack and get same size (but all season) tires on all 4 corners.
 
I have had staggered setups on 'vettes, a couple of BMWs, and a couple of S2000s and no being able to rotate the tires does mean you buy tires sooner. They all handled well, but you were not happy at tire time. I don't drive any one car a lot of miles, so it is not as large a concern as it would be for someone who puts a lot of miles on a car in a year. Just something to think about when deciding.
 
I have had cars in the past that had tires in odd sizes with limited choices, as luck would have it the tire makers produced more choices by the time I needed tires. If these size tires are used on other cars and as the demand for these sizes go up as they are worn out, the odds go up that other companies will produce something that fits,
 
Dennis
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Re: Picked up our G35 XS today [mvs1] by dwynne
Jan 13, 2008 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: mvs1 (Jan 13, 2008 8:42 am)

As I posted later, I checked the 39 month lease special on the Infiniti page and the MF works out to a number a lot higher than what I posted for 36 months. I get 0.00232 and 59% for 39 months when I use the numbers posted in the lease special.
 
So either:
 
1) IFS is really offering 59% and 0.00210 on a 36 month/15k mile lease (while offering 0.00232 and 59% for a 39 month/12k mile lease)
 
2) IFS is really offering 58% and 0.00228 on a 36 month/15k lease (while doing 0.00232 and 59% for 39/12k).
 
3) You dealer used the wrong numbers (note that if 1 is true then this is true as well)
 
I would say of the 3 choices, 2 (your deal) or 3 (dealer error) would be most likely and 1 (using the numbers I posted) is wrong.
 
So the $500 was the deposit on the car and then turned into the cap cost reduction? They probably just got an approval to charge your Amex and have not yet put it through. I don't think they would dare try to add more to it, nor should they.
 
We all get caught up the numbers - for sure the payment. Never tell the dealer what you want to pay per month since they make can reach that number and still rip you off . Always just work the price of the car, then plug that number into your own lease calc and see what the payment is. If the payment is too high, then try for more discount on the car or perhaps wait for better terms another time.
 
One of the leases I signed the dealer's numbers did not match mine (I have a program called LeaseIT! on my Palm Pilot) and I pinned down the difference. They were charging me a "gross receipts tax" on the car. This is the tax the county/city charges the dealer on every transaction and NOT a tax the customer is supposed to pay. I called them on it, but since my wife was with me and was tired of me going over every number and detail, I chose not to fight it. The rate on the lease was < 1% and the tax was pretty small so added little to the payment. Had I been there on my own for a car for me, I don't think I would have paid it - and would have asked for the car to be discounted to make their numbers match mine. Dennis
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Don't forget the $500 or $1000 in customer cash on G37 coupes by dwynne
Jan 13, 2008 (2:11 pm)
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Don't forget that Infiniti is offering $500 in "Conquest bonus cash" for registered owners of non-Infiniti vehicles if you purchase or lease a new G37 coupe.
 
If you currently own or lease an Infiniti (any model) this goes up to $1,000. You do not have to trade in your current vehicle to get this discount. This also is available no matter if you purchase or lease as well.
 
These can be combined with VPP pricing, the current discounted finance deals (2.9% to 3.9% for terms from 24 to 60 months), and the current lease deals.
 
Dennis
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Re: Picked up our G35 XS today [dwynne] by mvs1
Jan 13, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jan 13, 2008 12:17 pm)

I'll see how this works out over the coming week. If the lease is not funded than I'm certain I'll be notified ASAP.
 
I find it hard to believe a dealer would plug in the incorrect numbers, but who knows.
 
Yes, the $500 deposit basically turned into the cap cost reduction.
 
I usually challenge and question every number. I have walked out of dealerships when an additional fee is tacked on or something doesn't add up. I bring my laptop and basically pull up all the numbers in front of the sales person. My wife calls me a grinder, and she simply wanted to buy the car, since the numbers worked out to what was agreed to over the phone. She's not one to rework something, even if it's slightly in her (our) favor. I did read your post after you plugged the numbers into your spreadsheet and saw the savings between end of Dec and Jan were minimal at best.
 
However the original dealer we worked with tried to sell us the vehicle with a price lower by $300 over the one we signed with. We agreed since the dealer we ultimately purchased from worked out a deal with me in fifteen minutes vs. the three weeks with the other, we no longer wanted to waste any more time.
 
Mike
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Re: Picked up our G35 XS today [mvs1] by dwynne
Jan 13, 2008 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: mvs1 (Jan 13, 2008 6:12 pm)

I try not to "grind", but I do have to know where every penny goes before I sign .
 
To me "grinding" is trying to wear the other party down over time and even when I am checking every penny it does not take that much time. If something is not right and they don't fix it, then I just leave. If I have to travel to get the car (and I often do) then I either go with someone I trust or have them fax me documents before I go to avoid the trip if things are not right.
 
I once knew a guy that spent all day buying a new pickup truck, the sticking point was over a radio (he was buying the base model with no radio). After hours and hours they the dealer finally gave in and he got his radio. They put in the cheapest thing I have ever seen, something that might cost $25 are the store. If he had thought about how valuable his time was and how much he spend of it to get a radio, he could have saved himself a lot of grief and signed the papers and stopped by the store on his way home and purchased the cheap radio.
 
Heck, I paid $200-300 extra to avoid a 6 hours round trip drive. I could not get a closer dealer to match the distant dealer's price, but decided I just would not sit in the car for 6 hours (making someone else go along as well to drive my car back) just for such a little amount.
 
Now if they tried to raise the price after I made the deal, THAT is another story.
 
I will e-mail and ask about the rates and see if I can get a confirmation, maybe all is well and what I posted is wrong. Worst case, the rates I posted would probably save you some money . The dealer can't change the residual and if what I posted is correct then your number is wrong and the lease will not fund for that reason alone.
 
Dennis

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