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Replying to: frank8040 (Sep 18, 2007 10:49 am) Especially after the dreaded 1200 mile break-in period. At least you're already half way there.... let's hope those 600 were easy miles!  Sounds like you paid $500 over invoice. I paid more like $1,500 over invoice, but that was back in the beginning of the year and I had 10.5 miles on mine. I also opted for the Tech pack & wood trim, which made the car very hard to find. I was also pretty firm on my color choice. The special order made making a deal that much more difficult. (X's are VERY popular here in NE) I've had it since April and the novelty has not worn off at all yet... still look forward to driving every chance I get. 
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Replying to: clutchr6 (Sep 18, 2007 9:32 am) i am glad that folks are thinking about the value of their money. that is the great advantage of forums like this. mr. superman2424, if you cannot put down 30% you probably should not buy a car at that price. true it is a blanket statement. it is meant to be...guidance. very, very rarely is one able to match the interest earnings rate with the interest and finance charges assessed when purchasing a vehicle. How do i know? I ran the numbers. I am fortunate in that I have excellent credit and could put more than 30% down. What was the result? A low interest cost..overall lower costs during my ownership of the car. AND best of alll - I AM NOT UPSIDE DOWN in my car loan. A car is not an asset. It is a possession and a depreciating liability. all one ever does with a car (unless it is used for business) is spend money on it - gas, maintenance, insurance, etc. Assets earn money. Collectable cars may be considered assets, in that it increases in value. However it is simply wrong to think of a car as an asset. It is a possession. It is only assets to dealers, who sell them for profit and spend very little on maintenance, etc. I would respectfully challenge you to find a financially secure person who understands the value of a dollar, assets, investsments and liabilities to tell you that you should put down as little money as possible on a car, thus maximizing the loan AND risk being UPSIDE DOWN. Leasing is a lifestyle choice. It should not be regarded as a financial one. Thanks for the thoughts and input.
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Replying to: atl1234 (Sep 06, 2007 6:56 pm) I'm in NC, we have excessive doc fees here too. I read about $45 doc fees in CA and it makes me quite jealous. I have never been successful in getting a dealer to drop or even reduce a doc fee. I've used the VPP pricing, and talked with my sales manager about how the VPP terms omit any reference to required doc fees (it's just the VPP calculated price plus any dealer-added options, plus tax/tag/registration fees....no doc fees). It was fruitless, he said he even had to pay the doc fee when he bought his personal car. I understand that it depends on the dealer and some will negotiate it, but I haven't been so lucky in NC (or even know anyone that has).
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Replying to: liannell (Sep 18, 2007 8:21 pm) 
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Replying to: yogiowner (Sep 18, 2007 3:11 pm) Second, it appears we need to go back to accounting 101 for some of the individuals here. A car can be an asset, and expense or a liability. Here are examples. A single car payment is an expense A car is an asset if it can be sold for more than is owed A car loan is a liability For 95% of the population, their car is a liability, but for those dumping large sums to purchase the vehicle, it is an asset and a depreciating one. You are correct stating that an idividual should not be upside down in their car. That indeed creates a poor financial situation, but again demonstrates the importance of this forum and negotiating a fair deal as a consumer. Frankly, telling people to put 30% down on a car is very poor financial advise. A good financial rule is that rich people are those that put their money in assets and poor people put their money in liabilities. So why in the world would you advise someone to put their money in something that eventually becomes an asset with very little value once it is owned??? There is a list of books I can recommend to you if you do not believe me or simply understand the logic. The individual that stated that every person's situation warrants a different action is 100% correct. But there is rarely a situation in which an individual should dump 30% down on a car in cash. It's poor financial suggestion and one I hope you are not presenting to individuals you know.
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Making my first car purchase and have a few questions I would really appreciate help with: 1) What is invoice on a 2007 G35 w/prem & nav (sport & non-sport version) no tech pkg & w/o destination fee? I checked Edmunds but have seen conflicting info posted. A dealer (friend of friend) offered $200 over invoice (but invoice was not specified), so I want to make sure I have it right. 2) Does $200 over invoice sound about right for this car this time of year? Anyone anticipating incentives in October? and 3) What's the chance of getting an '08 for $200-$500 over invoice (relative qualifies for VPP)? -- I'm assuming slim to none. Thank you in advance!!
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Replying to: atlcar (Sep 19, 2007 1:35 pm) |
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Just picked up my '07 G35 Journey Sedan. Platinum graphite, graphite interior, premium, nav & tech., splash guards & trunk net, stickered  $38,515, bought for $35,600 plus tax, license & reg. I'm told I paid $500 over invoice. Another dealer was selling at invoice but I didn't want the black on black and he low balled me on my 350z trade. The 08's are on the lots. They include the back-up camera. |
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| My dealership told me today that the 08 are coming sometime within the next 2 weeks as they have just received the invoice on the cars. The sales manager also promised VPP pricing on a 08 G35 Journey Black/Wheat/Rosewood/Prem + Nav and I was quoted today for this model. Apparently VPP is possible as soon as the cars hit the dealership lot. | |
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