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#805 of 2125 2005 (june 04) Mustang
Jan 16, 2003 (11:09 am)
Guys and Gals:
I just came back from the Detroit Autoshow and wanted to report back to you all. The 2005 Mustang is awesome to say the least. The are plenty of new cars at the show (GTO, GTP, New Audi, Subaru's, etc) but nothing caught my eye as much as the 2005 mustang. I must be be thinking right as it was named most significant design for this year's show.
I have pictures if I could find a way to post...
Also, I was standing the and one of the product managers was talking to another VP and he mentioned two items worth noting:
1. It is a 2005 but will be pulled up top lauch early summer 2004
2. Here is the good news... 400 hp in the GT...No not a typo 400
Clearly Ford is pissed off about the GTO getting attention. The GTO design is clearly going after mustang owners.
THIS CAR IS AWESOME!
#806 of 2125 re: 400 horsepower
Jan 16, 2003 (11:40 am)
That would mean the supercharged engine will be standard on the GT.. I just can't believe that will happen. Maybe as an option though.
Also, I am disappointed that they have to use an iron block and a supercharger to do what the engine in the Z06 does with aluminum normally aspirated. Anybody else feel the same way?
#807 of 2125 Mustang wins Designer's Design Award
Jan 16, 2003 (11:52 am)
www.carconnection.com reports that, at the Detroit Auto show:
"According to the judges, this is the vehicle that must be built. It is the best in the show. The Mustang exemplifies innovation, emotion, refinement, and the ability to transcend the common. “The first time I saw the new Mustang, I wanted to buy it right on the spot – and I still do,” said Molinari. “It’s a real challenge to redesign such an icon, but its heritage has been successfully captured.”
To me, it shows how great the design of the 1967-68 Mustang really was.
Jan 16, 2003 (12:06 pm)
Thanks for the field report! No doubt about it...it's a fine-looking machine.
But I still doubt the 400 hp for the standard GT. It seems to me that would push the price tag pretty high (not to mention that the insurance on a car with that kind of power would be nothing short of usurious).
Jan 16, 2003 (1:26 pm)
If Ford really wants to compete with the GTO, the Mustang needs to have IRS. If the Mustang GT has both IRS and a 350+ HP engine -- well, that's going to be an interesting shootout.
#810 of 2125 It will have IRS!
Jan 16, 2003 (3:05 pm)
It may not have the power of a GTO (340+) in stock form but it will be lighter and less expensive. It's 1964 all over again.
See my post #154 (p8) for the dope on likely engine lineups. You'll need a Cobra (390-400hp) to stay with the Goat in stock form.
See the Feb '03 MUSTANG MONTHLY for an amusing miscue on what the new 'Stang should look like. Their sketches show a conservatively styled car with heavy '65-'66 influence.... Doh! Maybe all the other mags and websites are wrong and J Mays is lying. Yeah right! What poor timing on the part of Mustang Monthly.
#811 of 2125 I think the GTO should be great, as long as the price
Jan 16, 2003 (5:40 pm)
is okay. One of the keys to the muscle car formula was always affordability. And isn't the GTO really a replacement for the Camaro/Firebird, although it's not being called that. At any rate, I think competition is good for the Mustang.
#812 of 2125 Looks like the GTO will be a bunch more expensive....
Jan 16, 2003 (8:06 pm)
than the Firebird or Camaro (or 'Stang). Educated guesses put the base price in the low 30s with optioned cars hitting over 35.
The Buzz is that Ford will try to keep Mustang prices in the neighborhood they are now. That means that GT convertibles may come in just under $30k.
Jan 17, 2003 (9:43 am)
Seems to me like the GTO at that price will target mainly 1) "Next Big Thing" types who are intrigued by a new rwd large American car, and 2) GTO diehards, who have been waiting anxiously for this for years. They'll be the ones willing to pay that kind of price.
I can't imagine F-body enthusiasts considering it a proper "replacement" for the Camaro/Firebird. As it is to, the proposed GTO design still looks to me like a more muscular Oldsmobile Alero...a far cry from the shark-like lines of the Camaro or the batmobile/hellspawn look of the Firebird.
The Mustang will probably continue to target a much broader audience, and so will be more reasonably priced.
Jan 17, 2003 (12:07 pm)
The GTO will probably come in about halfway between a Camaro and a Corvette -- which would put it up directly against the Cobra...