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Alfa Romeo, Sedan
Apr 23, 2002 (1:09 pm)
Or a hair shirt masochist, given their reputation. My dad bought an English Ford while my mom and I were on a trip. Coincidence? I don't think so. We thought he'd gone off the rails.
Then he took us on a long drive along some back roads and made me a convert. I still remember the rorty exhaust, the floor shifter (3 speed) and the sense of immediacy. The red plush carpet, hacked from a roll of house carpeting, added a sporty touch.
#9 of 17 what about the 2000?
Apr 24, 2002 (4:19 am)
I saw a BMW 2000 recently (it looked Euro-spec), it was cool looking (IMO) at least, if not at all quick. It appeared to be late-60s (no headrests), manual trans of course, a lot like a 2002 with four doors but a bit bigger. Was this the linear predecessor to the 5-series?
#10 of 17 bmw 1600/2002 sedans?
Jun 07, 2002 (9:12 am)
correct me if i'm wrong, but i recall that the bmws were two door coupes...great board...i had a
76 alfetta gtv and a 75 alfetta sedan. the sedan was imo one of the prettiest boxes on the road. jack g
Jun 07, 2002 (9:15 am)
well, a coupe can also be a sedan sometimes, especially if it has back seats and a B pillar.
Jun 07, 2002 (6:10 pm)
Since this topic is about sport sedans, I'd like to add a comment. How about the 1993-97 Volvo 850? Would you consider them sports sedans in the sense of the term? To me, they were the very first sporty-type cars to come out of Volvo in a very long time. Not since the P1800 did we see a great-handling and fun Volvo. I can attest to this, since I have (and love) a '93 GLT sedan.
One more thing: Would you consider the 850s simpler, more complex, or on the same level in maintaining/servicing as the old RWD 240s, 740s, etc? Just my $.02 worth, but I think the 850s are great cars to work on if you know what you are doing.
#13 of 17 I like the 850s and the S70s but...
Jun 08, 2002 (7:27 am)
they strike me as good sporty family sedans. The S60 on the other hand is clearly aimed at the sports sedan market.
It's harder to define a sport sedan than a sorts car (which is hard enough given arguments raging throughout TH).
A sedan is a sports sedan if you think it is and drive it like one, especially if you equip it w performance enhancements (e.g. turbo, tires, suspension upgrades).
Jun 08, 2002 (8:17 am)
The 850 should be discussed in the Sedans topic, not Classics. This board is for older cars.
#15 of 17 2-door coupes versus 2-door sedans
Jun 09, 2002 (3:50 pm)
I know we've gone through this before, but in most cases, a 2-door sedan would share the same windshield with its 4-door counterpart, whereas a 2-door coupe would have a more raked-back windshield, usually shared with the convertible. At least in full-line domestic cars, that was usually the distinction, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
#16 of 17 I think it has more to do with the shape of the roof ......
Jun 09, 2002 (6:24 pm)
and the amount of passenger space in the rear.
Not all coupes are based on convertibles.
Jun 10, 2002 (4:38 am)
...most convertibles are based on coupes. Also, if you have a more raked-back windshield, more than likely you're going to have a lower roofline.
I don't know if they do this so much anymore, but back in the day, they'd often move the back seat forward about 4" in a coupe, versus a sedan, to give it shorter roofline with more slope in the rear, and a correspondingly longer rear deck. At least, comparing my '57 DeSoto and the 2 Dart hardtops I've owned to their sedan counter parts, that's how it is.