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Volkswagen New Beetle, Ford Focus, Honda Civic, Coupe, Hatchback
#13 of 22 definitely left out the best competitors
by nippononly
May 09, 2002 (4:06 pm)
I consider my celica to be a hatchback, and that would have done pretty well in this comparo I think. I don't even know how a New Beetle is a hatchback - it seems a lot more like a coupe to me, and lots of other folks call it a coupe as well. It seems clear that they definitely should have used the GTI instead.
And if they had the car I am considering buying, the WRX five door, in there, it would have been no contest. You can get one for $24K even with all the fixins, it is too short to be called a wagon, and it would have kicked butt over all these contenders.
It is a shame they have watered down the Civic SI tho. I had a late 80's CRX SI, which was similar but without the back seat, and it was a hot little car. It defined the segment then, but I guess no more.
Too bad they could not get a mini for this comparo, that car looks great. However I think it would have been too underpowered to win, so maybe it is just as well.
One thing a "hot hatch" should have tons of is handling - how come all the ones here are so porky and/or undertired?
#14 of 22 Not enough competition?
by shov6
Jun 19, 2002 (12:30 pm)
C'mon, what more is it going to take to prove to some of you that the SVT is "for real"? Won comparisons in Automobile, Car and Driver, Edmunds, etc... Face it, it's a great car and at the top of its' class.
-SHOV6
Jul 24, 2002 (1:11 pm)
Yeah, how many recalls on that almighty Focus now? What a piece...
Jul 24, 2002 (2:16 pm)
a VW fan making fun of the Focus for recalls. -slaps forehead with hand in irony-
I tell ya, they really need to put that "rolleyes" smiley face on the townhall.
Jul 24, 2002 (2:29 pm)
did not want to sound like I'm not a fan of VW. I love 'em, but just a little more grounded in reality than veedubmcnuggit.
Jul 24, 2002 (9:52 pm)
I don't hear much about VW recalls. Am I just naturally not tuned into VeeDubness, or is info harder to find on VW?
Jul 25, 2002 (6:49 am)
They just had a huge one not too long ago. Affected a lot of vehicles. (The recall that is. I don't think there were a lot of actual problems associated with it - vehicle fires I think?)
Jul 25, 2002 (6:53 am)
any more info on the new 2004 Golf? I'm hoping for the (finally) independent rear suspension to be well sorted out. Also that the 1.8t be available in the 5-door again.
Sep 18, 2002 (5:34 pm)
Why do people still bring up the Focus. They need to compare a Focus to a Neon!