Last post on Nov 30, 2011 at 2:35 PM
You are in the Infiniti G35
What is this discussion about?
Infiniti G35, Coupe
#2 of 2823 Good looking car
Apr 19, 2002 (8:02 am)
I saw the pictures in Autoweek a few weeks ago. Nice. Maybe this will get the Lexus folks to think about an IS300 coupe...
Apr 19, 2002 (8:25 am)
I dunno: it looks pretty much like the Z to me!
Not that I don't like; I DO! But what's the point of competing with yourself?
#4 of 2823 Past iterations of the Z...
Apr 19, 2002 (8:54 am)
...included a 2+2 model. I believe that Nissan has stated that the 350Z would strictly be a 2 seater. So, maybe the G35 is a proxy 350Z 2+2.
The G coupe looks goooood...
Apr 19, 2002 (9:42 am)
Don't most 2+2 versions end up being either the bastard step children, or the "geriatric-option" of the lineup?
Not really a slam, here, it's just that whenever I hear "2+2", the overlong, and overweight 280z and it's successors spring immediatley to mind. Even a venerable XKE 2+2 is somehow less appealing to me than the coupe.
I guess since a two-door competitor is lacking at Infiniti stands it's something that makes sense, but I wonder if enough will take the bait, instead of just grabbing a Z for (I should think) less...
Apr 19, 2002 (9:49 am)
The BMW 3 series coupe is a 2+2 and the G35 coupe's exact target. The only other option of an entry level lux coupe is the downright pathetic CL Type-S. Obviously that's a FWD car, so it's not a legit bit of comp for the Bimmer and G.
Also, the G35 Coupe is NOT a dedicated sports car like the Z. they're going for two very different markets. If one wants a sports car, the Z is the choice. If one wants the entry-level performance luxury coupe, then he gets the G or Bimmer.
Apr 19, 2002 (10:13 am)
Gotcha! And I'm not saying you're wrong, as far as targets and available options go, just that it might not get enough of an audience.
The 3 is an interesting comparison for me, because I don't think of it as a lux/perf.-coupe, but rather as a two-door lux/perf.-sedan. It started its life as a benchmark sedan and had two doors surgically removed, rather than being stretched from a real coupe. Also, it does not have a real two seater sibling, since the roadster/coupe is a very different car, I believe. Same can be said for the CL-s, though from a different benchmark. I think they're successful, in part, for that reason.
I think stretching a coupe originally penned AS a coupe usually yields less than perfect results, and I'm driving just such a coupe. It's nice and it does most all of the things I need it to, but the real coupe is a more capable car with better proportions that unfortunately can't carry my kids comfortably! My coupe's sales are tanking, BTW, while the real coupe's are on a roll.
I'm not knocking the G, but I question whether it will sell in quantities sufficient to sustain it, given that the Z is available.
Apr 19, 2002 (10:52 am)
Are you saying the FM platform can't sustain different variations of sedan, coupe and 2 seater? The current G's a fine sedan and the G35 coupe sports the same wheelbase, just it's wider has shorter overhangs and a lower roofline than the sedan. The 350 is even smaller, with a wheelbase that's chopped an additional I think 6-8 inches (possibly more).
The skyline's been around Japan for over a year, so the G35's underpinnings seem to be original design of that FM platform. The Z is the shortened version.
And once again, Nissan is selling the two cars to very different groups. Those who buy a 2 seater sports car aren't the same as those cats who fork over for a performance luxury coupe. Nissan isn't targeting the BMW with the 350z, but the Bavarians are definitely the only ones in the crosshairs of the G35c.
I can't see the Z or G stealing sales from one another because they're on different missions. you want all-out action and no usability or luxury, then it's the Z. You want luxury, utility, performance and some choice beyond a 330ci, it's the G.
#9 of 2823 Blah blah blah!
Apr 19, 2002 (11:31 am)
The G35 coupe is gonna sell well simply because it looks so damn good. Styling is the trump card for the common herd.
#10 of 2823 I like the G35 better
Apr 19, 2002 (12:10 pm)
It somehow comes across more well integrated without the seam below the c-pillar and more horizontal taillights. Also, a real grille seems to add some detail to the front.
The Z never caught my fancy but the G35 seems to work much better.