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211 messages, Last post on Aug 15, 2009 at 9:10 PM
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I started this thread as an outlet for the people who come to the Millenia board wanting to compare the virtues, or lack thereof, of the Nissan Maxima as compared to the Mazda Millenia. Please feel free to exercise your opinions on this comparison here as opposed to the MM discussion. Thanks
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here are some Millenia advantages... 1. Millenia has an independant suspension. the max does not....they did in the past but they de-contented the max to a semi independant suspension which is sub par compared to the mazda multlink. 2. traction control is std on the 'S' and avail with the four seasons pkg. on the 'P' millenia. The max does not offer this feature on the GXE model and it is an extra cost option on all other models 3. Moonroof is standard on all Mil...optional on all models of the Max. 4. Leather is standard on the Mil...not even offered on the GXE max and optional on SE max. 5. both Millenia offer an 8 way power seat for both driver and passenger, standard. Max only offers a less versital 4 way pwr pass. seat. on GLE model...again not avail on GXE model and optional on SE. 6. both model Millenia's come with a power tilt steering wheel with memory. Max has a manual tilt, like an sentra. 7. both model millenia's have automatic climate control...not avail on Max unless you buy top of line GLE...optional on SE...GXE is out of luck again. 8. side air bags are standard on both millenia's...only offered on GLE max std....if your in the SE its an option and GXE drivers are killed in a side crash. no side bags. 9. Millenia has a longer bumper to bumper warranty. 10. Millenia offers free roadside assitance 11. all mazda buyers are entitled to a loaner car for warranty work...you buy a maxima you walk when your car is in for service. give me a few minutes and I will come up with some more. 12. |
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These are observations of mine, having driven all models of both Millenia and Maxima before deciding on the Millenia. I own a 2001 Millenia "P". An X indicates what I consider an advantage. If both have an X, I feel they are about equal in that catagory. Catagory -------------- Maxima ------- Millenia Horsepower -------------- X Styling ---------------------------------- XXXXXXXX Quality of materials ----------------------- X Quality of assembly ----------------------- X Quality of paint ----------------------------- X Paint Application -------------------------- X Ride Quality -------------------------------- X Noise Intrusion ---------------------------- X Rear Suspension -------------------------- X Repair History ----------- X ---------------- X Standard Features ------------------------- X Handling ------------------ X ---------------- X Real World Price --------------------------- X Depreciation ------------ 1/2x ========================================= I copied this over from the Millenia thread to help get this one going. Part of it duplicates the above post by audia8q. |
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| Again, as some of you know I own both. They are two cars with totally different personalities. If you want a sport sedan go Maxima, if you want a luxury cruiser go Millenia. I love my Maxima because it is fast and has the best V6 I've EVER driven. My wife loves her Millenia cuz, she gets luxury and style at a fraction of the price. | |
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How many Maxima's do you see driving around daily?....now, how many Millenia's do you see driving around daily......hmmm, follow the crowd in a Maxima; or stand out from it (and above IMO) with a Millenia (S)..... For me this was a no-brainer, I wanted something attractive and or appealing to the eye, which as we ALL know, the Maxima is NOT - leaving me with a 2000 ME S...... still no regrets when I see all the Max's driving around day in and day out!! |
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You gotta be kidding me with this comparision. Anyway I 'll humor you and start off with a little news. http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/20886.htm#highlights
"Though little changed since introduction and never that popular, Mazda's U.S. flagship sedan some managed higher sales in 2001, up a healthy 35.3 percent year-over-year through the third quarter. Even so, industry informants say Millenia is doomed. Why? One reason is a design based partly on Mazda's last-generation 626, leaving Millenia an uneconomic manufacturing "orphan" within Mazda and parent Ford Motor Company. More urgently, Ford needs to slash expenses to pull out of a big sales and earnings slump, and that makes the misfit Millenia an obvious candidate for the axe. Does this mean Mazda will get out of the near-luxury market altogether? Sure looks that way to us." |
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We are all fully aware that 2002 is the last year for the Millenia. It is being replaced partly by the Mazda6, and partly by the RX8. That does not change the ability to compare the Millenia to the Maxima, which is also a several year old design. The Millenia is equal to or superior to the Maxima in every way except engine power. Thanks for your input. |
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"That does not change the ability to compare the Millenia to the Maxima, which is also a several year old design. " FYI...The current 5th Generation Maxima was born in 2000, so it's not that old and it is totally different than the 4th Gen Maxima. A 6th Generation Maxima will be here in 2004 and will share the Altima platform. |
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I am not a Maxima specialist. But my understanding from what I have read, is that the 5th generation uses the same platform as the 4th, but revamped to add about 30% more rigidity. The interior was also redone. For the 2001 model, Mazda also added about 30% more rigidity to the Millenia chassis, and the interior was completely redone. The Maxima also has used the same drivetrain for years, except for dropping the independent rear suspension for a beam axle in 1999, and tweaking the engine to add HP. Millenia still has a fully independent rear suspension, but Mazda has not entered the HP war with the 2.5L V-6. That is being done with the new Mazda6, and RX8. Automakers frequently say "all new" when it is not quite true. |
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My intention is not to disrespect current or potential buyer of the Milenia. However, I want potential buyers to be informed. Knowing that this would be the last year model for this car, why would you still want to buy it? Don't even think about resale value, because it would even be worse because there is no newer Milenia model to spark interest or passion in the car for future buyer in the Used car market. Ok, so you may say that well, "I plan to keep my car for many years, so resale value means nothing to me" Well, I say think about availability of the parts when the Milenia gets old and you need new parts, water pump, alternator, etc... How easy would it be for you to obtain that part? Traditionally, Nissan is more reliable than Mazda products, so if you plan to keep it for a long time, Nissan should be your obvious choice. I will not go into details about performance/handling stats because we all know the outcome will favor the Maxima. Tony, |
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