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Billymay, Those number come from the factory. I checked with them through the owner's site. It's well worth registering if you haven't already. Nero Metallico is an unusual paint for Ferrari across the board. When you add in all the other differences between cars, you might find you're more unique than you think. For instance, of the 328s in that colour, I've found out that mine is the only one with the full Schedoni interior. I've found one other (in Japan) which has the same interior colour (wine) but has the black dash top and arm rests. As for websites, I also highly recommend joining Ferrari Chat, if you haven't already. Great info and a nice group of people. Not unlike this forum! Is the 30K done yet? I'm curious to hear your impressions when you've had the car on the road for a bit. I've had the good fortune to own a few Ferraris and until I get my next, I love this one the most! Best of luck and happy motoring! Tom |
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Replying to: dunhillmd (Dec 10, 2005 5:43 pm) Gee, this wasn't you, was it? http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-022206ferrari_lat,0,1938469.story?coll=la-s- tory-footer |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 22, 2005 8:24 am) The car was perfect. Now if you think I got a bad deal, think again. This was the best offer by far after listing it on E-Bay and taking it to four local Porsche dealers, none of which who would even take it on consignment! E-Bay had 295 Porsche's listed for sale. The after market has virtually evaporated for the higher end Porsches. And when the new 07's come out with 480HP the 04-06's will go in the toilet just like the 2000-2003 Turbo X50's did when the new Turbo Carrera S came out. As for driving it everyday. Yah...you can do that but maintenance ain't cheap at the Porsche dealer either, and the darn car, with the sluggish "tiptronic" simply is no fun to drive. And you virtually can't tell a 165k Turbo Porsche from a 65k Carrera on the outside so why bother? What did I do with my money from the Porsche sale? Just bought a 2003 360 Modena coupe with a six speed manual shift and 5400 miles. For the first time in over two years driving is now fun again...Nothing sounds...looks... nor drives like a Ferrari. I'm like a kid in a candy store!
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Replying to: fghton (Apr 29, 2006 4:19 pm) I've put 6,200 miles on my 911S Cab in the past 7 months. I expect that rate to increase now that spring is here. You put 4,000 miles on the 2002 911 Turbo in 3+ years. Quick math indicates about 100 miles a month for you, 1,000 miles a month for me. Hell, my daughters have probably logged 300+ miles a month in the rear seats. Your 4 year/48,000 mile warranty expired with 42,000 miles UNUSED. I'm contemplating extending mine to a 7/75 or 7/100. There is no doubt that a Ferrari is a more unique car and, if driven very lightly, a better garage queen investment than the 911. But, according to the Ferrari dealer I spoke with, he was unaware of any 360's that had reached 35k miles on their odometer, in the country. He actually suggested getting a 911 if I intended to drive 10,000 to 12,000+ miles a year. Frankly, I'm not sure what brand of dope the previous owner was smoking when he paid $154k for a 2002 911TT/X50. (Nor what kind of dope anyone would smoke to buy a 911TT with a tiptronic). I could buy a loaded 2007 6-speed 997 Turbo today for about $140k (base MSRP of around $125k). On the other hand, if you managed to take $85k and turn that into a 2003 360 Modena 6-speed, you got one hell of a deal. And for someone who drives about 1/2 of the miles that my wife runs on a monthly basis, I think you made a great choice. But if I turned in our "family sports car" for a two seater garage queen, I'd be facing the wrath of three women who could make my life miserable. 
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 30, 2006 5:01 am) I don't think Ferrari owners do all this number crunching (15,000 miles a year, depreciation = $n, etc.) It's a Ferrari and you know it's irrational to start, so discussions with Porsche people (my brother is one) tend to be two guys talking past each other. Honestly, the last owner put a $2500 exhaust on my car, and whether he got another 2bhp out of it I don't know. But it sounds amazing so who cares. IMHO, someone would have to smoking something to pay six figures for any flavor 911, when there are ROWS of them on used car lots and unless you read a lot of car mags they all look the same. Don't get me wrong, I like Porsches and I might pick up a Cayman as a daily driver at some point, but there's a night-and-day type of difference between my Ferrari and my ex-Porsche. (And yes, the Porsche is a better-engineered car, hands down.) Tsaupe: I'm loving the car - have now had it since January. 30K major w/water pump rebuild was done at Sport Auto in NC; having the front bumper resprayed to clean up some stone chips. Apart from a minor problem with a window switch the car's been excellent thus far. It does like to be properly warmed up, and then it really comes to life (gearbox especially). Was worried the Tubi might be too loud, but I like it. I had doubts about not getting a red car, but the nero met/tan actually looks better, IMO.
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Replying to: billymay (May 14, 2006 2:12 pm) But the sound, the looks and feel of driving the 328 really make the 911 irrelevant. IMHO, someone would have to smoking something to pay six figures for any flavor 911, when there are ROWS of them on used car lots and unless you read a lot of car mags they all look the same. ....suggest that you are more concerned about appearances than reality. The old 328 couldn't match the performance of my former (limited production, 9,000 rpm redline) $32k Honda S2000, let alone any model 997 or the Cayman you are considering for a daily driver. And, for less than $100k, the 911S Cab gives you comparable or better performance than a $175k Ferrari 360 Spider in a car that you can drive 30k miles in 2 years, not 20 years. The fact is, that your statements are relevant to you, and mine to me. And BOTH the Ferrari 328 and Porsche 911 are to be commended for being the pinnacle of their respective segments within the sports car world. So, be assured that, other than as a friendly rebuke to your post, I will never show disrespect for Ferrari. They do what they do better than any other manufacturer, period. By the same token, I would hope that you can see why the 911S isn't "irrelevant" to me and last time I checked, I wasn't smoking anything. P.S. I have the $2,400 Porsche sport exhaust on my 911S and, hate as I might to admit it, it sounds great too, with 0 increase in the official horsepower rating |
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 21, 2006 7:28 pm) You're right, my experience with these cars is much more subjective and far less stopwatch/g-meter focused. I wouldn't compare a 308/328 to any 2006 model year sports cars on the track. I think my point, clumsily made, was that in the sports-car-experience-per-dollar ratio (which includes things like speed, visual and aural impact, and financial considerations like depreciation) is that a new 911 is a "bad deal" compared to some of Porsche and Ferrari's past offerings. Obviously I still appreciate Porsches. The value equation of the new models eludes me, though.
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Replying to: billymay (May 24, 2006 3:02 pm) O.K., I'll bite on that one. I went through a tough decision to trun down a very good deal on a friends Ferrari 360 and have elected to order a new 911 S coupe instead. What's the "bad deal" when the 911 S is more than capable of being driven daily at 15,000 miles per year and doesn't require an oil change until 20k miles? The 360's 30k major service would run $7,500 at the dealership. Worse yet, any relatively significant repair could take the car out of commission for 4-5+ weeks. The original owner did drive his 360 on a regular basis, but it depreciated substantially as a result. The dealer deducted $40,000 from the trade in value because it had 30k miles instead of the "expected" 5-8k. The owner offered it to me for less still, just to spite the dealer. They since made up and he's happy with his new 430. The Ferrari 328 is a beautiful classic that looks great standing still. But to compare it to a new 997 and somehow conclude that the 997 is a "bad deal" suggests that you are willing to spend a lot of time admiring your 328 rather than driving it. There really should be no comparison of ANY classic exotic to a current model 997. They serve significanly different purposes. A nearly 20 year old 328 is no more of a good daily driver than a 997 is an impressive garage queen. But reverse those roles, and both should serve their purpose very well. I'd take a 328 over a 911 for 1,500 miles of Sunday driving. P.S. I owned one of the 450 original BMW M1's. Wish I still had it. But I wouldn't be driving it a fraction of the miles I'll put on the 911, if at all.
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