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| I don't think the Enzo will be a classic Ferrari or even a classic at all. I've seen a few in person and they are just ugly. The Enzo-derived Maserati MC12 looks far better and I've seen the race version of the MC12 at a recent American Le Mans Series race. | |
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I think it's too early to judge the Enzo on looks alone. Tastes change. However, as far as performance is concerned, it's a classic, IMHO. I was surprised to see that the Lusso didn't make the top ten, although it was "first alternate." I was parked next to one at a show the other day, actually between a Lusso and a 512 BB, and I couldn't get over how beautiful the Lusso was. the lines and proportions are just so right. Its weight keeps it from having the SWBs performance, but it's no slouch. I still think the 275 GTB4 is Pininfarina's best ferrari though. Anyone have an opinion on the FXX? What's the next step after the first 20 are sorted by their "test" drivers? I'm rather bummed that I wasn't asked to apply for ownership. Oh well, It probably is horribly impractical and gets lousy gas mileage! |
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I've heard a lot of rumors, some from very reliable sources, saying that Ferrari is seriously thinking of re-introducing the Dino line with a Mid engine 6. While trying to avoid the tiresome "was the Dino a real Ferrari?" debate (drive one and then tell me it's a Fiat), how does everyone feel about an entry level Ferrari? What should an "entry level" Ferrari cost? Would the introduction of a Dino hurt the marque's image? Now that they've gotten rid of Maserati, do they need another line? Has anyone seen so much as an artist's conception?
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Replying to: tsaupe1 (Sep 06, 2005 6:15 pm) I was surprised they left the glorious Lusso off the MT-Classic list as well. It seems to me the 250 Series 1 Cabrio got on the list mostly for it's looks and I don't think any other Ferrari trumps the 250 Lusso for looks. As for performance, well, there were several Lussos that were raced and there's plenty of ways to "hop up" the 3.0 V12. |
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I've always considered the Dino one of the most beautiful automobiles ever made and I'm glad to hear that Ferrari (or Pininfarina) is not trying to duplicate it in any way. Every retro looking design I've seen just doesn't seem to work I was unaware of Lussos being raced. Do you have any more info on that? We lost use of the 328 for a few weeks this summer due to a variety of 17 year old car problems which all struck at the same time. Vacuum hoses, an O2 sensor and finally a water pump, which failed while they were warming up the car for the inspection sticker, meant that we were Ferrari less for two weeks of great weather. So we're hoping for one of those lovely, long, New England Autumns so that we can make up for it!
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Replying to: tsaupe1 (Sep 08, 2005 5:29 pm) Have you seen the movie biography of Ferrari called (appropriately) Enzo Ferrari? It's a halfway decent movie, but a little quick to steal plot devices from Citizen Kane. |
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I've heard about it but haven't seen it yet. Where did you find a copy? Of course, both Kane (and his real life counterpart) and Ferrari were larger than life, so I guess I could forgive the theft. This is the one made originally for Italian TV or something, isn't it?
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Replying to: tsaupe1 (Sep 09, 2005 6:01 pm) |
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Ferrari has just announced the new 430 Challenge car. Built strictly for competition it uses the same engine and output as the 430, but is considerably lighter. It also features carbon/ceramic brakes, a redesigned central exhaust system, new ratios in the final drive and 5th and 6th gear. No drivers aids like traction control, etc. Oh, and special to the car Pirelli slicks. The challenge series used to be for (admittedly well-to-do) amateurs and owners. For perhaps 5-6K more you could get a competition Ferrari to play with on weekends. this car sounds a lot more like you need the car, the crew and bottomless pockets to run. On another note, this is the 30th anniversary of the 308 GTB/S. My assistant at work was commenting, as he paged through my copy of Forza, how great looking the 308/328 cars are. Especially since they are "sooooo old, I mean, that's like 5 years before I was born!" I told him how some designs age better than others, that I had lusted after that shape since it was introduced, When I was his age. I felt very old. So I fired him! 
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| This month's Forza Magazine lists another top ten. Among the judges was Piero Ferrari. Although similar to MT's there are interesting differences including the 250 GTE. They credit the car for keeping Ferrari afloat in the early 60s. Huzzah! Strike a blow for the lowly 2+2s! | |
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