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Re: The markup on the Ferrari F430 is Outrageous!!! [habitat1] by billymay
Jul 31, 2005 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jun 16, 2005 1:11 pm)

Having owned a 911 and driven a Ferrari, I don't think the choice comes down to performance. A Porsche is a practical but slightly naughty sports car, that tells everyone you can go damned fast and have disposable income. A Ferrari is a rolling lust object, an awe-inspiring bit of celebrity that sounds like an angry race car on the street.
 
A Porsche 997 is the next act in a legendary engineering story. A Ferrari is Cameron Diaz showing up naked at your door.
 
No doubt a 997 is a fine car, better built and possibly better engineered. I'm sure you'll like it, as much as I liked my 993. But don't kid yourself. You're either getting a Ferrari, or you're getting something else.
 
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Re: time once again for this question [xyzzy] by billymay
Jul 31, 2005 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: xyzzy (Jul 28, 2005 6:28 pm)

Thanks for the reply! Yes, I plan to avoid eBay for many reasons, one of which is that I want to inspect the car personally, and also get a PPI on it.
 
BTW, I think I saw your post on f-chat. I hope that clutch and oil leak issue gets sorted out.
 
I'm probably going to ante up and pay the dealer premium, for the peace of mind that comes with a car that's been gone over and has a 30-day limited warranty on it. It takes a while to find the right car, but I will.
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Re: Get out the towel ...[billymay] by habitat1
Aug 01, 2005 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: billymay (Jul 31, 2005 1:55 pm)

..I think you may be drooling too much over you lust for Cameron Diaz.
 
But don't kid yourself! A 1987+/- 328 isn't Cameron Diaz. At least not a fresh one. It's a high maintenance date that has been passed around for 18 years. Hopefully a good inspection can help you avoid a mechanically transmitted disease.
 
Seriously, I won't dispute that Ferrari has a head turning quotient that is in a league of its own. And I still think the 328 is a heck of a good looking car. But having a friend that owns one and having seen how much time and money he puts into mainting it and his small fleet of other exotics and classics, I have decided that's not for me. I have too many other time and family priorities. Perhaps when I'm retired and get sick of golf, having a 15-20+ year old Ferrari to putz around with would be interesting.
 
If you decide to go that route, you have my best wishes. I really enjoy seeing the old Ferrari's finding a good home and occasionally adorning our streets with their flashing presence.
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This topic's been sleeping let's liven things up. by andys120
Aug 29, 2005 (2:38 pm)
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Where are all the Tifosi?
 
-Motor Trend has launched a new publication, Motor Trend Classic. It's premiere issue-Sept. 2005 features "The 10 Best Ferraris" as named by a panel of about two dozen experts including Luca diMotezemolo, Mario Andretti, Dan Gurney and others.
 
The list, restricted to street-legal cars, is about what you'd expect it to be all the usual suspects are included with a one or two exceptions, check it out.
 
Sorry I can't post a link it's not on their website.
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classic by xkss
Sep 03, 2005 (1:22 am)
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I don't think the Enzo will be a classic Ferrari or even a classic at all. I've seen a few in person and they are just ugly. The Enzo-derived Maserati MC12 looks far better and I've seen the race version of the MC12 at a recent American Le Mans Series race.
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enzo by tsaupe1
Sep 06, 2005 (4:46 pm)
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I think it's too early to judge the Enzo on looks alone. Tastes change. However, as far as performance is concerned, it's a classic, IMHO. I was surprised to see that the Lusso didn't make the top ten, although it was "first alternate." I was parked next to one at a show the other day, actually between a Lusso and a 512 BB, and I couldn't get over how beautiful the Lusso was. the lines and proportions are just so right. Its weight keeps it from having the SWBs performance, but it's no slouch.
 
I still think the 275 GTB4 is Pininfarina's best ferrari though.
 
Anyone have an opinion on the FXX? What's the next step after the first 20 are sorted by their "test" drivers? I'm rather bummed that I wasn't asked to apply for ownership. Oh well, It probably is horribly impractical and gets lousy gas mileage!
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Dino by tsaupe1
Sep 06, 2005 (6:15 pm)
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I've heard a lot of rumors, some from very reliable sources, saying that Ferrari is seriously thinking of re-introducing the Dino line with a Mid engine 6. While trying to avoid the tiresome "was the Dino a real Ferrari?" debate (drive one and then tell me it's a Fiat), how does everyone feel about an entry level Ferrari? What should an "entry level" Ferrari cost? Would the introduction of a Dino hurt the marque's image? Now that they've gotten rid of Maserati, do they need another line? Has anyone seen so much as an artist's conception?
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Re: Dino [tsaupe1] by andys120
Sep 07, 2005 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: tsaupe1 (Sep 06, 2005 6:15 pm)

I did see a drawing of the new "Dino" in a magazine (R&T?) it looked alright but certainly lacked the fluid beauty of the earlier Dinos. I personally have no problem with an "entry-level" Ferrari so long as it's done right. I hope it's a real sports car, as opposed to an ersatz big Ferrari.
 
I was surprised they left the glorious Lusso off the MT-Classic list as well. It seems to me the 250 Series 1 Cabrio got on the list mostly for it's looks and I don't think any other Ferrari trumps the 250 Lusso for looks. As for performance, well, there were several Lussos that were raced and there's plenty of ways to "hop up" the 3.0 V12.
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looking for good fall weather! by tsaupe1
Sep 08, 2005 (5:29 pm)
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I've always considered the Dino one of the most beautiful automobiles ever made and I'm glad to hear that Ferrari (or Pininfarina) is not trying to duplicate it in any way. Every retro looking design I've seen just doesn't seem to work
 
I was unaware of Lussos being raced. Do you have any more info on that?
 
We lost use of the 328 for a few weeks this summer due to a variety of 17 year old car problems which all struck at the same time. Vacuum hoses, an O2 sensor and finally a water pump, which failed while they were warming up the car for the inspection sticker, meant that we were Ferrari less for two weeks of great weather. So we're hoping for one of those lovely, long, New England Autumns so that we can make up for it!
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Re: looking for good fall weather! [tsaupe1] by andys120
Sep 08, 2005 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: tsaupe1 (Sep 08, 2005 5:29 pm)

I'll have to rumage around in my Ferrari literature for info on racing 250 GT Lussos.
 
Have you seen the movie biography of Ferrari called (appropriately) Enzo Ferrari?
It's a halfway decent movie, but a little quick to steal plot devices from Citizen Kane.

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