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Does anybody know that the markup for a F430 coupe is over 50K and for a F430 Spider is as high as 150K over MSRP!!! I am a loyal Ferrari enthusiast and have always wanted to own one. So far my favorites are the F355 and F360, Both of them are truely beautiful and affordable compare to the extreme levels like Enzo or F50,.When the F360 just came out back in 99, the dealers put markup on those cars as high as 100k over msrp, but now its 2005, the F430 is already out on the market. So you can own an used F360 with low milege around the MSRP. But when i heard about the markup on those F430, i really think we should have a law to Ban markups on cars. The Ferrari company did not make cars to make their authorized dealers to overcharge the customers and making the car a merchandise for people to trade around to make money with. I just saw on ebay last week that a person who is selling his spot of a F430 Spider for november delivery, the bidding amount is already 130K and the reserve is still Not Met. The surprising thing is that there are actually alot of people bidding on it. If you add up the total amount, you will end up paying around 400K for a F430 Spider when the MSRP is only 200K. Personally, I'd rather pay 200K for a used F360 Spider than pay double for a F430 spider. I think alot of people on this forum can actually afford a Ferrari but will not be willing to pay double for the car unless you are really loaded with lottery money. Its just not a smart thing to do. |
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Replying to: mymercedes (Jun 15, 2005 8:27 pm) Oh, grow up! If you don't like the price, don't buy it. That's how the free market works. Yeesh! 
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complaining about the markup on Ferraris is a bit like complaing about being too warm in a fur coat.  I'm soory you can't afford one but I'm even sorrier I can't 
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Replying to: mymercedes (Jun 15, 2005 8:27 pm) What does often happen, however, is that the original purchaser backs out or tries to flip their contract (which FoW does not permit). At that point, it's a free market and FoW will mark up the car to whatever they can get. I was told I could wait 3+/- years for a 430 Spider at MSRP or take a yellow 6-speed that was coming in that had just become available for $75k over MSRP. FWIW, the 430 is an enormous performance improvement over the 360. That from a friend of mine with a 2001 360 coupe that is trading up to a 430 spider. His wait is down to 9-12 months, thanks to his past purchase. Personally, while it was fun to fantasize for awhile, I can't justify either a used 360 or a new 430. They are beatiful cars, but not meant to be driven much. But my brief consideration of a 430 has helped the $100k price tag on a new 911(997) S Cabriolet seem relatively reasonable. Especially given that it matches or beats the 360 in performance, can carry my daughters in the back seat and goes 2 years or 20,000 miles before the first service. Downright cheap by comparison, wouldn't you say??
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jun 16, 2005 1:11 pm) M
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Replying to: merc1 (Jun 16, 2005 11:00 pm) What I claimed was that the new 997 model 911S appears to be neck and neck with the outgoing 400hp Ferrari 360. According to Porsche's published performance stats, the new 911 / 911S do not appear that much faster than the old 996 models they replace. But from the independent tests I've seen, the 911S comes in at anywhere from 3.8 to 4.3 in 0-60 times which isn't far off the 996 911 Turbo and Ferrari 360. And everyone that I have spoken with confirms that the new 997 911 - especially the S model - is an impressive improvement in every way, performance, interior quality, daily driveability, etc. All of this performance is somewhat meaningless, given that my average 0-60 time with my daughters in the back seat would be about 30 seconds. And it's the back seat in the 911 that has me considering spending an extra $65,000 over the cost of another Honda S2000. I miss the days when I could squeeze both of them in the front passenger seat of the S2000 for a 1/2 mile drive to school at 10 mph. |
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Replying to: billymay (Nov 17, 2004 6:25 pm) Be careful on eBay though. This turned out to be a very costly lesson for me. I purchased a '86 328 from Kessler Auto Group in Miami and did not receive the car as advertised. On 2nd day, car's clutch went and engine blew oil everywhere. My costly advice, have an independent mechanic look over car before final purchase. In hind sight, it would have been well worth a few hundred dollars.
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| Sorry to hear about your misfortune. What recourse do you have since you said the car was not as advertised? You should always get a Pre Purchase Inspection on any Ferrari. A little money up front can save you a lot of money later. Good luck with repairs, they really are great cars. | |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jun 16, 2005 1:11 pm) A Porsche 997 is the next act in a legendary engineering story. A Ferrari is Cameron Diaz showing up naked at your door. No doubt a 997 is a fine car, better built and possibly better engineered. I'm sure you'll like it, as much as I liked my 993. But don't kid yourself. You're either getting a Ferrari, or you're getting something else. 
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Replying to: xyzzy (Jul 28, 2005 6:28 pm) BTW, I think I saw your post on f-chat. I hope that clutch and oil leak issue gets sorted out. I'm probably going to ante up and pay the dealer premium, for the peace of mind that comes with a car that's been gone over and has a 30-day limited warranty on it. It takes a while to find the right car, but I will. |
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