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#579 of 729 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jul 30, 2004 (7:08 am)
Looks like Ferrari won the Car & Driver V-12 GT car contest this month!
#580 of 729 by tsaupe1 Aug 01, 2004 (3:54 am)
Just read the article. can't say I agree with their summation of the styling of the 612, but I'm willing to admit my prejudices. What amazes me is the apparent QC problems of the Aston and what sounds like bad design/engineering in the Bentley.   I thought their comments about fuel economy a bit silly. Do they really think that will make a difference to anyone who can afford on of these? I care quite a bit in my daily drivers, but when the F car goes out my last concern is mileage.
#581 of 729 by sphinx99 Aug 01, 2004 (10:49 am)
Read the article too. My takeaway was that the CL600 is the amazing car of that roundup. It nearly beat out the brand-new Ferrari (4 pts off) despite being an older car that costs 1/2 the price. I had no idea the performance envelope of the new 6L was that high. It'll be interesting to see a CL65 pitted against this same crowd!
#582 of 729 by merc1 Aug 01, 2004 (11:29 pm)
Well here is a video of the CL65 vs the Bentley and the Aston:   http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/kpouliki/cl65_0001.wmv   Not much of a contest at the track.   M
#583 of 729 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Aug 02, 2004 (6:21 am)
I think the Ferrari won heavily on subjective feelings and reactions, which is really understandable. There is nothing that feels and drives and sounds and looks like a Ferrari--it is really in a different universe than any other car, even if the others cars are as fast, etc. So the subjective input factor really favors the Ferrari since it has so much personality. Call it "car charisma" or something. Maybe it's just a trick and partially irrational but it seems to work on some people. Works for me anyway. I think Ferraris are unique in a world where unique cars are getting rarer and rarer.   As for the Bentley, that marque has been mediocre since the day Rolls Royce bought it some 70 odd years ago, and it seems that while new owners have improved it mightily, it is still not good enough vis a vis the competition. "The more things change, the more they etc. etc."   Once you lose your crown in the automotive world, it's very hard to get it back again it seems.
#584 of 729 CL65 by ajvdh Aug 02, 2004 (8:52 am)
Yeah, but it only took 8 guys to out-pull it.   And what car did all three editors choose - hint: It was the most Ferrari-like one of the three.
#585 of 729 by tsaupe1 Aug 02, 2004 (3:12 pm)
I completely agree that the Ferrari won on subjective points. After all, isn't that really how we make almost all automotive decisions. Sure, we play the numbers games, and we try very hard to be practical. However, I think that most often we end up using all that information just to justify purchases to ourselves. If you want a Bentley, you're going to buy one. You'll find some way to make the specs and reviews justify your decision.   On another note. I'm sad to say that my wife was unable to get spy photos of the new 360 replacement while in Maranello the past few weeks. Unfortunately she had to settle for watching Schumi and Badoer testing the F1 car on Fiorano. What a shame! I guess we'll just have to go back soon for another try. Replies to this message: andys120 (Aug 03, 2004 6:07 am)
#586 of 729 Re: [tsaupe1] by andys120 Aug 03, 2004 (6:07 am)
Replying to: tsaupe1 (Aug 02, 2004 3:12 pm) Anyone see the computer-generated 420 Modena coupe in the August R&T? It had a grille slot stretching across the lower front of the car instead of the oversize ducts on either side on the 360, IOTW it was an improvement aesthetically.   I hope the new Modena ends up looking like that.
#587 of 729 Another virtual Ferrari.... by andys120 Aug 05, 2004 (2:13 pm)
appears in the new Road and Track for September, the 600 Imola slated, sez R&T, to replace the 575 Maranello.   It's a frontal "shot" and shows a strong resemblance to the 612 with slighly more aggressive shapes and detailing.   I'm glad they're planning to replace the somewhat generic looking Maranello with something that looks classically Ferrari without being "retro". If the sim isn't an accurate portrayal of the next Ferrari GT I'll be surprised, it looks very credible.
#588 of 729 Here's more..... by andys120 Aug 06, 2004 (7:29 am)
on the '06 600 Imola, less clear than the R&T shot, but less virtual...   http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=178&sid=178&a- - rticle=7186   The Lehmann photo lacks the center hood scoop seen on the R&T virtual shot but there appears to be a bra or something covering the hood. You can clearly see the 612-like headlights and the agressive grille shape that distinguishes the 600 from the 612.   There's no Corvette like-cove along the side of the Imola in any shot that I've seen. It looks like they need something to break up that side.   I wish the R&T shot was online but so far it isn't.

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