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before i post - thanks for the tire info, larsb...was very helpful. the current problem i'm having cropped up in the past few weeks. i thought it would go away after i had the 40k maintenance done, but no such luck. when i'm driving under 5 mph - e.g. creeping along in stop and go traffic, or going through a parking lot - the car (which has a CVT transmission) is very "jerky". not a very technical term, i know, but it best describes what's happening. happens pretty consistently, regardless of whether i'm lightly stepping on the gas pedal, or taking my foot off of it and just letting the car coast along. motion is similar to driving a manual transmission, and not quite giving it enough gas before letting out the clutch - i.e. the car tends to lurch forward, albeit slowly in my case. anybody at all have any clue or guess as to what the heck's happening? would appreciate any info, or even knowing if any other owner has had this experience. thanks guys (and gals!)
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Replying to: econguy (Sep 02, 2004 5:24 pm) Yup! The belt is slipping. Some owners have found relief by simply just getting the transmission fluid replaced. Try that. Honda is having troubles with their CVT currently. GM had actually stopped production of their CVT in January. But they ended up resolving the problem. And Ford is debuting 2 vehicles with CVT for the 2005 model year. So it's likely Honda has some tweaking to do still. Note that Prius uses a totally different CVT, the "planetary" type instead of a belt. JOHN |
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"Yup! The belt is slipping" I've never came across any articles, technical or otherwise to support a theory of CVT belts slipping but would be interested in any links you may provide. "Some owners" Who were those owners? I'd hate to hear of someone having the expense of a fluid change based on such a vague statement. "Honda is having troubles with their CVT currently" Again, I've never came across any articles, technical or otherwise to support any Honda CVT problems. Other than your vague statments can you provide links? "So it's likely Honda has some tweaking to do still" Are you saying that Ford and GM CVT's are the same as Honda? What tweaking does Honda still have to do? |
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Honda has been building CVT transmissions since 1996 and I have never, once heard of any such troubles.
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Replying to: isellhondas (Sep 12, 2004 10:43 am) ___If you have the chance to look over the pdf’s of the reliability test article below, you will see 3 failed CVT’s. Suspiciously the 3 that failed were driven by Bank One employees. I suspect they had an employee running full brake powered launches or some other such stupidity late in the life of these abused hybrids  ___You can see the entire list of results at the following: http://avt.inel.gov/hev.html HCH pdf #3: 2003 HCH w/ CVT. Driven by Bank One’s courier pool. CVT and CAT failed at the 96 and 97K mark respectively. HCH pdf #4: 2003 HCH w/ CVT. Driven by Bank One’s courier pool. CVT and CAT failed at the 99 and 100K mark respectively. Insight pdf #3: 2001 Insight CVT. Driven by Bank One’s courier pool. CVT failed at 89K. ___Good Luck ___Wayne R. Gerdes |
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| There was a few owners mentioning CVT slippage on the Civic HX forum back in 2000 or so. I'm sure there have been improvements since then, but maybe that's where he got the impression that Honda was having problems. | |
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quote Stevedebi-"You are trading a sunroof and a fold down rear seat for 12-15 extra miles per gallon and the "climate control system" which is standard on the HCH and not available on the EX." Of course, the HCH has a lower engine oil change schedule, if I remember? Severe useage oil change schedule (double for normal useage): HCH - 3750 miles Civic EX - 5000 miles-end quote" Correct, but who most people over the age of 35 have decided on a personal schedule of when to change their oil and they use that. In my case, I'm not going to change the oil in my HCH any more frequently than I would a "regular" Civic - I use arguably the best synthetic oil on the planet and I'll change every five to seven thousand miles, based on oil analysis. Owner's manual oil change recommendations are a "general guide" that the car manufacturer must publish to protect themselves.
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm)
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Replying to: misterme (Sep 15, 2004 1:33 pm) Thanks for posting that; some previous posts had indicated a different mileage interval due to the different engine.
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