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Honda Civic, Hybrid Cars
#1788 of 1804 Re: A message to all American HCH owners [davhan]
Jan 01, 2011 (7:35 am)
That is a bunch of garbage ! You should work for Honda since you already have the talking points down.
I admit it, I drive really fast and expect to get less MPGs than other people, but I was getting 60 mpg when I first purchased the car and it dropped to 27 MPGs after the upgrade.
It has nothing to do with my driving as I always drove the same. I am happy for you that you have not experienced these problems. Maybe it has somethng to do with pollution laws here and your country does not need this software upgrade.
Here, the evidence is clear. We have been taken for a ride and not the 60 MPG one either.
#1789 of 1804 Re: A message to all American HCH owners [rd5418]
by kirstie_h HOST
Jan 01, 2011 (9:42 am)
Keep in mind that the message you're responding to was written 4-1/2 years ago, before HCH owners began experiencing problems.
#1790 of 1804 got kids?
by steve_ HOST
Nov 10, 2011 (12:33 pm)
A reporter is interested in talking with parents who own a 2012 Volkswagen Passat, Mazda 3, Chevy Cruze Eco, Honda Civic Hybrid, Chevy Sonic, Honda CR-V, Toyota Camry and Toyota Prius V. If you are interested in commenting on your experience, please reply to predmunds.com no later than Friday, November 30, 2011 and include your city and state of residence, the model year of your vehicle and the age of your child/ren.
#1791 of 1804 Advantage - battery is that it is smaller
Dec 10, 2012 (8:02 am)
One advantage of the new hybrid battery is that it is smaller, for a given capacity, compared to last years battery. This helps keep a relatively large truck area, but doesn't allow for a fold down rear seat.
#1792 of 1804 Re: Advantage - battery is that it is smaller [trendao]
Dec 10, 2012 (1:57 pm)
I wonder if the suits at Honda will finally give the Civic Hybrid a sunroof option. I'm aware of the slight weight issue a sunroof may ensue, but a power sunroof would be such a pleasant thing to have, especially installed from factory and with the Hybrid model, IMHO.
#1793 of 1804 hybrid repairs
Dec 26, 2012 (5:42 am)
the wife has a 2004 HCH with 130 k on the odo. recently it started giving us fits because the battery pack is deteriating. we replaced the engine battery. car ran normal for about a month before it crapped out again. the hybrid battery ( when it starts to fail)will pull energy from the 12 volt engine battery killing the electrical system. i have discovered that if you shut off the battery pack at the battery, behind the rear seat, the electric motor will continue to keep the engine battery charged so the car can be driven. for those with auto tranny, you will notice a drop in performance. we have a five speed. one of the few that were made. your performance and fuel economy will be compromised, but at least the car can still be driven daily. it will start like a normal car instead of the hydrid system. at this time i do not know if we will replace the battry pack. and yes there are a couple of companies that make remanufactured batter packs. anywhere from around 1500 to 2000 dollars american. installing a new battery pack is a straight forward install. fairly simple. just make sure to disconnect the 12 volt battery before beginning.
if you want to turn the ima light off on the dash, go into the fuse box under the hood and remove the fuse for the ima system. it is a 20 amp fuse. also one under the dash.
i hope this info will help those that are having battery pack failure.
#1795 of 1804 Honda Civic Hybrid (HCH) class action Settlement Options
Nov 29, 2012 (10:19 am)
Bought a 2009 HCH new in Oct. 2008 and am eligible to participate in a class action settlement for under performing MPG
I'll get a whopping $100 to compensate me for the average 37 MPG achieved over my ownership vs the EPA window sticker 40 city 45 highway
To make up the difference between the real cost of the 400 gallons of fuel purchased in the 75,000 miles driven so far and the $100 cash payment American Honda offers owners two options:
A) $1,000 non-transferable rebate on the purchase or lease of a new Honda provided the 2009 HCH is traded in or sold in a bona fide arms length transaction
B) $500 transferable rebate on the purchase or lease of a new Honda without the proviso of trading or selling the 2009 HCH
My 17 year old wants the HCH but we generally do not keep hybrid vehicles beyond the Federally mandated 100,000 mile hybrid system warranty period our 2009 HCH will soon eclipse
Both rebates are valid 12 month from issuance, claims for the settlement must be postmarked no later than April 19, 2013
Which rebate option would you suggest and why please?
#1796 of 1804 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid (HCH) class action Settlement Options [peatnick]
Dec 19, 2012 (12:56 pm)
Well at least you've got some action even though I'll admit the settlement is outrageously bad for consumers.
In Canada I lodged a Better Business Bureau complaint, but Honda Canada evrn ignored the BBB.
In March 2012 Honda Canada stated it would honor the US settlement in Canada, but two months after that bad deal was finalized, nothing by way of an update from Honda Canada, and "Customer Service" knows nothing.
Likely they're hoping we'll all die or sell the vehicles before action is taken. I bought my first Honda, and it will likely be my last even though I like the car. Honda Canada seems to thumb its nose at customers. However my dealer Carter Honda has been great.
Dec 19, 2012 (3:30 pm)
Sorry to Honda Canada has left you cold, hope they come around and honor the US settlement, stingy as it is
Wound up taking the "transferable $500 rebate" hoping to sell it on eBay, doubt there is another Honda purchase in my future either, although still planning to hold onto the HCH for another year or two...
All my Honda dealer did for me is install the 2010 IMS software update that irrevocably reduces battery consumption and inversely increases fuel consumption, last trip ever for me to Willis Honda, although we still take it to another Honda dealer in the area for the 0/20W oil changes