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#118 of 1804 Mileage for CVT
Jun 15, 2002 (8:39 am)
I have put about 1200 miles on my Hybrid. I've filled the tank twice. On the first fill up my trip meter was indicating that I was averaging 44 mpg. My actual mileage (distance divided by gallons of gas used) was 41 mpg the car went 464 miles on the first tank of gas before the fuel light came on. On the second tank of gas, I drove 525 miles before the fuel light came on. The trip meter indicated that I had averaged 47.6 mpg, reality was 42.6. I believe the mileage will get better, but I don't know that I will get the 48 mpg city and 47 mpg highway as advertised on the sticker. It is far too hot in this area of the country (Dallas, TX) to not use the AC; however, on those two days out of the year when I don't use the ac, my gas mileage might be better.
The car is very comfortable and I like the autostop feature, because the ac still says on during this time, one merely has to adjust the fan speed to compensate for the difference in ac performance when the gasoline is off.
I am also not sure on the oil change schedule. I consider this area an extreme weather area because of the heat. If I follow the owners manual, that would mean changing the oil at 5,000 miles. My dealer recommends 3,750 miles for the oil change. I changed the oil on 1991 Honda Civic hatch back at every 3,000 mile interval and it still works great.
I didn't know that leather seats were available with the Hybrid. I had 4 things included in the Hybrid: wheel locks, a polymer hood protector, mud flaps and floor mats. The Edmunds TMV = the sticker price. I was able to get mine with the four extras mentioned above for $1700 under the sticker price. Car sales in this area of the country are really slow, buyers can make incredible deals.
I asked for 4 price quotes from the more than 30 or so dealerships in the DFW area. I visited each of the four dealerships and asked for their best offer. Then I sent an email to all four listing the features I wanted and the best deal each was offering. Within hours of the email 3 of the 4 dealers offered me competitive bids. I got two dealers in a bidding war. The emails really helped me keep track of the bids and who was offering what. I recommend this tactic to anyone buying any vehicle, not just the Honda Civic Hybrid.
#119 of 1804 Civic hybrid yes
Jun 15, 2002 (10:14 am)
I don't have a hybrid yet but hope to one day soon anyway was wondering how the A/C works in idle stop mode in the Civic I mean if the engine isn't running is the compressor turning or is it just the fan blowing ? In the Prius even at a stop (gas motor not running) one of the electric motors turns the gas motor (no spark, thats what I mean by not running) thus the compressor is turning and the fan is blowing. How does the Civic do it ? As for how often to change the oil it does seem unusual that the book recommends 10,000 mile (5000 severe service ((temps over 90 degrees)) but since the gas engine isn't working as hard (auto stop, electric motor assist) maybe 5000 miles = the 3750 miles we're used to ? Rob in Houston
#120 of 1804 Questions.....
Jun 15, 2002 (1:39 pm)
I'd like to throw out some questions for discussion
1) How do you think the Hybrid will perform in a cold Northern Ontario Winter?
2) Might some of the parts be hard to get because of the low production volume?
3) How will the depreciation compare with regular Honda Civics?
4) How will the low resistance tires compromise the vehicle?
Thanks for any input from you folks in cyberland!
#121 of 1804 Honda Civic Hybrid 5-speed vs. Prius
Jun 16, 2002 (6:12 pm)
Here are my test drive impressions of the Honda Civic Hybrid 5-speed, but first a little background.
Last month my girlfriend and I researched and test drove the Prius and the Honda Civic Hybrid (both with automatic transmissions). We bought the Prius primarily because it has much better acceleration (off the line, and at speed) and better exterior colors than the Civic Hybrid. After driving the Prius for a month, we both love it. If I had to change anything on the car it would be the brakes. They are pretty weak and grabby. You have to brake differently than with a normal car.
But now back to the 5-speed manual Civic Hybrid test drive.
The 5-speed version of the Civic Hybrid is only a little bit faster and peppier than the automatic version, but is still underpowered. If Toyota can make a peppy hybrid sedan, Honda should be able to also-- but Honda has fallen short of the mark with both versions of their current Civic Hybrid.
The colors are still plain-vanilla boring and awful. We got our Prius in a nice navy blue.
But get this! In the Civic Hybrid, there is an opening in each of the front wheel wells into the engine compartment! I didn't notice this on the automatic version, but maybe I missed it. The opening is about the size of a dinner plate and I was shocked. Having lived through 5 Colorado winters, and many more in the Northeast, I can't imagine all the saltly slush and icy crud that usually gets caked into the wheel wells now getting sprayed into the engine compartment! Are they out of their minds?
The Honda salesman said that the holes were for ventilation to cool the engine, but I think he was feeding me a line. If the Prius doesn't need dinner plate-sized holes in the wheel wells for "ventilation" why does the Civic Hybrid?
The ONLY things that the Civic Hybrid beats the Prius in is better brakes, and the convenience of standard Civic parts.
#122 of 1804 parking and auto stop
Jun 17, 2002 (1:24 pm)
When I pull into my parking spot, the engine shuts off (which is nice). It immediately turns on again when I switch the CVT from drive to park. (This seems like a waste.) To prevent this, I've been shutting the car off using my key when the engine is off, but the transmission is still in drive. It's only a minor annoyance, but I wish there were a more usable alternative. Anyone else notice this? I hope I'm not hurting the car by doing this.
#123 of 1804 Civic Hybrid
Jun 17, 2002 (7:01 pm)
I got my leather installed by the Aftermarkets department of my dealer. They got a customizing company to do it but I think it looks a lot nicer now. Feels nice too. As for my options, I got the wheel locks and the mud guards and the floor mats. I don't think I got that hood guard thing. But I do have the silver highlights for the front and the back, but not the silver exhaust cover. As for mileage, I'm so happy! I'm nearing my 1000 mi mark and I drive normal with my hybrid. I always seem to be going around 70mph on the highway and 45mph on local roads, which is a bit on the fast side, but I am now getting 49mpg. Sometimes I get 52mpg even though the sticker mileage was 48/47. I guess the website mileage of 51/47 is more accurate. I think I'm paranoid about the tires being the right pressure. I noticed a slight flattening around the bottom of my front tires after my second fueling, but my dad says all cars are like that. I love to drive my car and I love the fact that I've gone about 1000 mi so far and have paid about 26 dollars for fuel with half a tank still in my car. I'm thinking of getting tint for my windows once I start working. I'm thinking of getting a reflective silver or reflective white tint. Not too strong though. I might also get some interior lights to make it look nice. So far, I have gotten a nice black rubber/gray suede steering wheel cover for my car. I'm not going to invest too much into it, but these little things make it much nicer I think.
Jun 18, 2002 (4:54 am)
I think depreciation will be worse on these due to the limited appeal and high initial cost. If you plan on selling in a few years you might want to consider that. As for northern climates, it should run fine as I'm sure it's been tested but I kind of wonder how it would be through a blizzard. Power may be an issue if you are stuck in a lot of snow.
Jun 18, 2002 (1:08 pm)
I am deciding between a Honda Civic Hybrid and a Toyota Prius. Can anyone tell me what the strengths and weaknesses of both (or either) are? I am looking for feel and features. Why should I choose one over the other.
#126 of 1804 AC during Auto/Stop and Hood Guard
Jun 19, 2002 (3:20 pm)
While the auto/stop feature is engaged, the gasoline engine does shut off. However, the electric motor keeps the air conditioning working albeit with somewhat less force. To compensate for this, one can adjust the fan speed. The ac condenser is still working so the air is still as cold as you have it set for.
The polymer which was put on my hood covers about the first 8 inches, it is clear, but does provide protection from the sand, gravel, etc. which gets constantly sprayed on these Texas roads by trucks. It was also applied to the back side of the side mirrors and underneath the door handles. I don't know if every dealership offers this, it is an after market feature. The polymer is made by 3M.
I have not experienced the lack of pep described by chrishatcher. As a matter of fact, I am surprised at how fast the car does accelerate. I agree the color choices could be improved, but I still believe this car to be a better vehicle than the Prius. As for braking with the Civic Hybrid, you brake like you would any car equipped with ABS, no difference.
My suggestion to those who are undecided is to test drive both cars and make your decision afterwards.
#127 of 1804 Prius v. Civic
Jun 19, 2002 (4:00 pm)
Is it worth noting that on the Prius manual transmission is unavailable? Seems that with the Civic Hybrid 5 speed you could make the car drive more like a standard Civic by getting a feel for the transmission, in ways that you could'nt if you're constrained by an automatic transmission, no matter how refined the auto trans. Is that wrong?